Interspecies Conflict/Some match ups

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QUESTION: Sir

I have some match ups in mind , please provide an explanation as to how the fight would turn out. Please consider fight to the death scenario with both average and prime individuals.

1. Red Deer vs Sambhar
2. White tailed Deer Vs Reindeer
3. Winner of 1 vs winner of 2
4. Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2
5. Elk vs Winner 3
6. Moose vs winner 5
7. Wild boar vs all of above deers
8. How many gray wolves it will take to take down all of the above deers

ANSWER: Hello Ravi.

Whether average or prime, the matchup will be about the same when cervids are considered.  The primary points to consider in a battle involving cervids are size, strength, & antler characteristics.  Fights to the death are uncommon, as the weaker animal typically cedes its position.

1. Red Deer vs Sambar: The sambar will weigh about 80% heavier than the red deer.  Red deer have long, thick antlers with many points, and the sambar has long, curved antlers with few points.  Deer battle by charging/locking antlers, and even though the red deer's antlers are more impressive & more combat-effective, the heavier sambar will dominate the point of contact with its strength.  Sambar wins.

2. White-tailed Deer Vs Reindeer: The reindeer (caribou) will weigh about twice the weight of the white-tailed deer.  The reindeer's antlers spread out impressively (with many points), and it would be difficult for the smaller cervid to get around this (offensively or defensively).  The white-tailed deer has medium-length antlers (aiming mostly upward) with several points.  It may be more nimble than the reindeer, but not enough to employ its antlers offensively without being met with antlers at the point of contact.  Once the antlers are locked, the heavier reindeer will push the smaller white-tailed deer around.  Reindeer wins.

3. Sambar vs Reindeer: The sambar will weigh almost 30% more than the reindeer.  The reindeer's wide antler spread will be hard to get around, but the sambar will have the power to control the battle once the antlers clash.  Sambar wins.

4. Red deer vs White-tailed deer: The red deer will weigh about 35% more than the white-tailed deer.  The red deer has long antlers with many points that give it an edge in weaponry against the white-tailed deer's shorter set.  The red deer will be powerful enough to push the smaller deer around, and its antlers are positioned well to cause greater injury.  Red deer wins.

5. Elk vs Sambar: The elk will weigh about 40% more than the sambar.  The elk has long, backward-sweeping antlers with many points.  The sambar's antlers are long, but don't have many prongs.  The elk's antlers are shaped to be more combat-effective, and the larger cervid will have the strength advantage.  Elk wins.

6. Moose vs Elk: The moose will weigh slightly more than 40% more than the elk.  The moose has heavy, wide-spreading antlers that have a large surface area (flat bone with points on the edges) that can act somewhat as a plow or a shield in a confrontation.  A moose is the most powerfully-built cervid, and it will have little trouble pushing the elk around with its wide antler spread.  The many sharp points on the elk's antlers can cause serious injuries, and it would be a decent foe at parity, but the mighty moose will be too strong for it with its weight & strength advantage.  Moose wins.

7. Wild boar vs Cervids

Wild boar vs Red deer: The wild boar will be slightly heavier than the red deer.  Wild boars are relatively nimble, and are armed with sharp tusks in their jaws to slash opponents with.  The hide of the boar is tough, and gives it decent protection from attack.  The red deer's pointy antlers can injure by stabbing, but the boar will be able to bring its weapons to bear with much greater effect.  Wild boar wins.

Wild boar vs Sambar: The wild boar will be less than 60% of the sambar's weight.  The sambar's antlers have few points, and the gap between their span can be attacked by the boar's tusks.  The quicker boar will have more targets to take advantage of, and its hide should offer some protection against impact from the cervid's antlers.  The aggressive wild boar is simply more combat-capable than the sambar.  Wild boar wins.

Wild boar vs White-tailed deer: The wild boar will be over 40% heavier than the white-tailed deer.  The white-tailed deer will try to kick or engage the boar with its antlers, but the suid's tusk attack will be more easily applied in this battle.  The tough hide of the boar will hold up better to the deer's attack than the other way around, and the suid's weight advantage will give it more opportunities to topple the cervid.  Wild boar wins.

Wild boar vs Reindeer: The wild boar will weigh almost 3/4th of the reindeer's weight.  The wild boar will have the edge in quickness, aggression, & hide durability.  The reindeer will have a chance to stave the boar off with its antlers on occasion, but the nimble boar will be quick enough to tusk the cervid with quick charges (even attcking the neck area by exploiting the opening between the antlers).  The weapons of the boar will be more effective in this fight.  Wild boar wins.

Wild boar vs Elk: The wild boar will weigh about 40% of the elk's weight.  The elk will have a significant reach advantage with its long, pointy antlers, and the boar won't have a way to shield the front of its body from this weaponry.  The wild boar can move nimbly, and has a chance to tusk the neck, sides. legs, & belly of the elk with a quick assault (as these body parts are well within range).  The elk will be quick enough on most occasions to turn toward the boar when it charges, and its size advantage will give it the edge when the 2 animals collide.  Edge to elk.

Wild boar vs Moose: The wild boar will be less than 30% of the moose's weight.  The boar can move quickly, but it will have a small window of opportunity to slash at the flanks of the moose before the large antlers swing around.  An impact of the moose's antlers to the boar's body can have dire results, and the boar is low enough to the ground for the moose's hooves to come into play.  Wild boars can hold their own against other herbivores in their weight range, but a moose is simply too large.  Moose wins.

8. How many gray wolves it would take to take down each deer?  This is assuming each deer is on even ground (no snow), isn't tired from being chased, and stands its ground.  Wolves are capable of succeeding in each matchup with smaller numbers than are given, but usually will need the deer to flee (or be fatigued) to gain a greater advantage.  This is also assuming each wolf used is an alpha male (60kg) & not the typical mix of males & females (which would require more members to succeed in each matchup).

  Red deer - 1 possibly; 2 for sure
  Sambar - 2 probably
  White-tailed deer - 1 can probably do it; 2 definitely can.
  Reindeer - 2 should do it
  Elk - 3 probably; 4 for sure
  Moose - at least 4 or 5 would be needed as a moose weighs as much as 12 wolves


Best regards.

---------- FOLLOW-UP ----------

QUESTION: Thanks sir for quick and detailed response

This time I will try to put forward  Deer vs Antelope match ups. For this I am considering two groups

Group A (Deers)- Swamp deer, Red Deer, Reindeer , Sambhar , ELk and Moose
Group B (Antelopes) - Sable, Nyala, Oryx, Roan , Wildebeast and Eland

Each member of Group A faces with each member of Group B so that there are 6 match ups for each animal. Details are welcomed as I really want to know about herbivores (If needed please omit obvious details)

regards

Answer
Hello again Ravi.


Swamp deer vs Sable Antelope: The sable antelope will weigh about 65% more than the swamp deer.  Sable antelopes have long, backward-curving horns and are known to fiercely battle predators (including lions) in conflicts.  The swamp deer has medium-length antlers with some prongs, but will be outmatched by the antelope here.  Sable antelope wins.

Swamp deer vs Nyala: The swamp deer will weigh a little more than 40% of the nyala's weight.  Nyalas have horns that point backward from the slope of the face, and can reach up to 70cm long.  Deer & antelope typically have similar pound-for-pound strength & abilities (with few exceptions), and the deer has enough size here to prevail.  Swamp deer wins.

Swamp deer vs Oryx: There are more than one species of oryx, so we'll use the scimitar-horned oryx (if you want me to use the East African oryx, the Arabian oryx, or the gemsbok instead, let me know in a follow-up).  The scimitar-horned oryx weighs about 15% more than the swamp deer, and has long, smooth horns that curve slightly backwards.  The horns of an oryx are sharp, and can cause serious wounds if they make contact.  Oryx wins.

Swamp deer vs Roan Antelope: The roan antelope will weigh about 65% more than the swamp deer.  Roan antelopes will fight aggressively, and have thick, curved horns that can approach 1 meter in length.  Roan antelope wins.

Swamp deer vs Wildebeest: The wildebeest will weigh over 50% more than the swamp deer.  Wildebeests have large heads & cow-like horns, and deal with a large variety of predators on the African plains.  The antelope has too much size for the deer.  Wildebeest wins.

Swamp deer vs Eland: The eland can weigh over 5 times as much as the swamp deer.  Eland are the largest antelopes, and have stout, spiraling horns that can exceed a meter in length.  Eland are very agile for their size, and can jump fences as tall as themselves.  The much larger eland wins.

Red deer vs Sable Antelope: The sable antelope will weigh almost 60% more than the red deer.  The red deer has long, well-positioned antlers with many points, but it will be outmatched by the larger, fiercer sable antelope.  Sable antelope wins.

Red deer vs Nyala: The red deer will weigh 50% more than the nyala.  Red deer wins.

Red deer vs Oryx: The oryx will weigh almost 10% more than the red deer.  The red deer may have some success with its antler spread, but the oryx's horns have greater potential for more serious damage.  Edge to oryx.

Red deer vs Roan Antelope: The roan antelope will weigh almost 60% more than the red deer.  The roan antelope is similar in ability & temperament as the sable antelope, and will overpower the red deer.  Roan antelope wins.

Red deer vs Wildebeest: The wildebeest will weigh about 45% more than the red deer.  The red deer won't bring enough to the table to combat the weight difference.  Wildebeest wins.

Red deer vs Eland: The eland will weigh about 5 times as much as the red deer, and will dominate it.  Eland wins.

Reindeer vs Sable Antelope: The sable antelope will weigh about 10% more than the reindeer.  The reindeer's antler spread may deter the sable antelope initially, but the aggressive antelope will wield its horns more effectively than the deer will wield its antlers.  Sable antelope wins.

Reindeer vs Nyala: The reindeer will weigh more than twice as much as the nyala, and size will matter here as usual.  Reindeer wins.

Reindeer vs Oryx: The reindeer will weigh about 30% more than the oryx.  The reindeer's antlers will shield it somewhat from an initial attack, but the long, sharp horns of the oryx can penetrate this defense with a well-placed thrust.  The reindeer's antlers can cause damage themselves, but it will be at greater risk overall.  The weight advantage of the deer will allow it to control the positioning of a head-to-head pushing war, but it will need to be careful.  Close to 50/50.

Reindeer vs Roan Antelope: The roan antelope will weigh about 10% more than the reindeer.  The antelope's aggression will be greater, and it horns have the potential to cause big damage with a good strike.  Roan antelope wins.  

Reindeer vs Wildebeest: The wildebeest will be slightly heavier.  The caribou will have a reach advantage with its antler spread, but the wildebeest is more accustomed to combat.  Edge to wildebeest.

Reindeer vs Eland: The eland will weigh over 3.5 times as much as the reindeer, and will easily overpower it.  Eland wins.

Sambar vs Sable Antelope: The sable antelope will weigh 10% more than the sambar.  Both animals are strong, but the sable antelope has more aggression & better weaponry.  Sable antelope wins.

Sambar vs Nyala: The sambar will weigh twice as much as the nyala, and will be too strong for the antelope to handle.  Sambar wins.

Sambar vs Oryx: The sambar will weigh about 30% more than the oryx.  The "locking horns" portion of the battle will favor the heavier sambar, but the damage potential of the oryx is greater.  Close to 50/50.

Sambar vs Roan Antelope: The roan antelope will weigh about 10% more than the sambar.  The roan antelope will win for the same reasons the sable antelope will win.  Roan antelope wins.

Sambar vs Wildebeest: The wildebeest will be slightly heavier.  Both will have similar strength, but the wildebeest's horns will be slightly more combat-effective overall (and it is used to using them against many attackers).  Edge to wildebeest.

Sambar vs Eland: The eland will weigh 3.5 times as much as the sambar, and will easily overpower it.  Eland wins.

Elk vs Sable Antelope: The elk will weigh 65% more than the sable antelope.  The sable antelope is fierce, but its giving up strength & reach in this battle (the elk's antlers are long & have many sharp points).  The antelope will put up a good fight, but it will ultimately be outmatched by the larger deer.  Elk wins.

Elk vs Nyala: The elk will weigh almost 4 times as much as the nyala, and will overwhelm it.  Elk wins.

Elk vs Oryx: The elk will weigh well over twice the oryx's weight.  The elk's antlers are positioned well enough to be as dangerous as the oryx's horns, and the oryx would need a lucky strike to gain an upper hand against the larger cervid.  Elk wins.

Elk vs Roan Antelope: The elk will weigh 65% more than the roan antelope.  The roan antelope will almost give the elk as much resistance as the sable antelope, but as with that matchup, the elk will be too large.  Elk wins.

Elk vs Wildebeest: The elk will weigh almost 80% more than the wildebeest.  The wildebeest will find it difficult to use its horns offensively without getting met by an imposing set of antlers.  The elk has too much size & reach.  Elk wins.

Elk vs Eland: The eland will weigh twice as much as the elk.  The eland's horns aren't positioned ideally for easy stabbing, but it knows how to use them.  The elk's long antler reach will be a nuisance to the eland (and could potentially wound the antelope), but in most cases the eland will overpower the elk once contact is made.  Eland wins.

Moose vs Sable Antelope: The moose will weigh well over twice the sable antelope's weight.  Moose are the largest & most powerful members of the deer family, and have huge, wide antlers with points along the edges.  The sable antelope isn't formidable enough to compete with a cervid of this size.  Moose wins.

Moose vs Nyala: The moose will weigh 5.5 times as much as the nyala, and will easily overwhelm it.  Moose wins.

Moose vs Oryx: The moose will weigh well over 3 times as much as the oryx, and will be too powerful for the antelope to handle.  Moose wins.

Moose vs Roan Antelope: The moose will weigh well over twice the roan antelope's weight.  The moose's charges could bowl the antelope over.  Moose wins.

Moose vs Wildebeest: The moose will weigh 2.5 times as much as the wildebeest.  There's very little the wildebeest could do to mount an effective offense against a foe this big.  Moose wins.

Moose vs Eland: The eland will weigh about 40% more than the moose.  The sharp horns of the eland could do more damage (with a good stab) than the impact of the moose's antlers, and the better agility of the antelope might open up an opportunity to bring its weapons to bear.  The moose's antlers will act as a shield at times, but a head-to-head pushing contest will favor the larger eland.  I would slightly favor a moose at parity, but not when it's giving up this much size.  Edge to eland.


Best regards.

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