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Interspecies Conflict/Close Match ups - Follow up


Hello Sir

Regarding the answers to my last question in closed match ups I have some queries and would like you to clarify.

1: Isn't elephant stronger than White Rhino pound for pound and a African Elephant is stronger than Asiatic Elephant, also the female African elephant also has tusks. So do the order still remains White Rhino > Male Asiatic elephant > Female African Elephant.

2 : Hippo vs the Bovids, isn't Hippo stronger and has better weaponry.

3: Female kodiak bear vs Siberian Tiger at nearly equal weight, Please add more to that.

4: You made the sequence as Siberian Tiger (M 205)> African Lion (M 200) > Bengal Tiger (M 200). Isn't Bengal tiger more aggressive and deals more dangerous prey. In case of lion he is even more stronger and agile too. So please elaborate.

5: Lioness vs jaguar (150 kg) at equal weight please
elaborate more

6: Female Jaguar vs Male Leopard at 80 Kg. Can gender balance the advantages jaguar has ?

Other Questions

1. Apart from top 3 eagles is there any other bird which can match Golden eagle in face to face situation (Not considering lucky fights)

2. Rate following in case of fight to death Elite APBT, Elite Bully Kutta, ELite Tosa , Matriarch Spotted hyena , Alpha Grey Wolf

Hello again Ravi.

1. An elephant is stronger than any rhino pound-for-pound, but it's not a huge gap.  However, at close to equal weights, the rhino will be about 2/3rds the height of the elephant.  Typically an elephant is twice the height of a rhino (and much, much heavier), but seeing a scale representation of equal-weight animals will give a better idea how how these 2 animals will match up.  The horn of the rhino will be positioned to drive into the elephant's neck or face, and the rhino's better maneuverability will enable it to do this.  It would be a very close fight, but the edge goes to the rhino at these close weights.  The Asian elephant is usually a bit smaller than the African version (and has smaller ears), but it is just as strong pound-for-pound.  Female elephants have tusks, but they are usually less prominent (and female elephants are usually less aggressive than males).

2. A hippo's jaws are indeed impressive, and when they get into the right position they can cause huge damage.  However, a hippo's mobility, endurance, and territorial aggressiveness wane when they venture onto land.  A full-grown bull hippo may get 5ft at the shoulder, and large bovids can reach 6ft at the shoulder.  Hippos typically weigh twice as much as the largest bovids, but at equal weights, the hippo will be only 2/3rd the height of the bovid.  A proper scale model will help in this visualization.  Gaur, bison, cape buffalo & water buffalo are very powerful animals that are adept at using their horns to piledrive or impale an enemy.  At similar sizes, they will have the mobility to avoid the chompers of the hippo and inflict damage themselves.  A well-placed bite or jab by the hippo could quickly turn the tide, but on most occasions it won't be able to get into a position favorable enough to do so.

3. A female Kodiak bear vs a Siberian tiger will be a close fight (if the weights are close).  Bears generally have a strength advantage over big cats, and big cats typically have a power (strength + speed = power) advantage over bears.  Bears have greater endurance & bigger paw swipes, and cats have better agility, quickness, and killing experience.  The tiger will need to finish the fight quickly, because it will tire after time passes (which will favor the bear).  Big cats are expert finishers, and that should aid the tiger in this matchup.

4. Siberian tigers might be a little less aggressive than Bengal tigers, but they are just as capable (they deal with boars, bears, large cervids).  Siberian tigers also have a thicker coat, which might aid in buffering the blows of an enemy.  Lions and tigers are very close at equal weights.  There aren't enough advantages for either one to make a profound difference in an equal-weight matchup.  Male tigers are certainly better at hunting than male lions (and are arguably more agile), but male lions often fight other male lions to protect territory & females (a male lion lives an average of 5 years less than the lioness due to this reason).  A tiger is a solitary hunter (rarely it will hunt in pairs).  Lions gang up on a kill, and then fight amongst themselves for the best piece.  The mane of a male lion is primarily for intimidation & attracting females, but it serves to buffer the head/neck area from blows from an enemy.

5. Lioness & jaguar at equal weights is another very close matchup.  Lioness are the more practiced fighters (fighting hyenas; ganging up on buffalo and what not), but jaguars have a strong, stocky build and are stronger pound-for-pound (and have the strongest bite force for its size) than any other cat.  The jaguar kills by crunching through a victim's skull or spine (back of neck).  The lioness might get the better of a paw-swipe exchange, but once they fully engage, the jaguar will have a decent chance of eventually overpowering the lioness.  Close to 50/50.

6. Jaguars and leopards are considered by most to be the strongest big cats pound-for-pound.  Leopards drag heavy prey items up into trees, which is a tremendous feat.  Leopards deal with different predators day-to-day (lions, hyenas) compared to the jaguar (caiman, anacondas), but both animals typically avoid confrontation without something major at stake.  The jaguar has a stronger, stockier build, but the leopard might be a little quicker & more agile.  The edge to the jaguar is mainly due to its tremendously strong bite.

The golden eagle is a very aggressive, brave, & confrontational bird. It weighs up to 6.5 kg.  It can handle just about any other bird in its weight range, but some eagles (apart from the "big 3") are as large and & powerful.  The African martial eagle is one of them.  It can approach the size of a golden eagle, and it is every bit the combatant.  The bald eagle is another bird in this weight range, and can't be discounted as being in the neighborhood with the others.  The African crowned eagle is a bit smaller at over 4.5kg, but it takes very large prey items (in relation to its size) and may be the the most powerful bird pound-for-pound.  After the "big 3" would most likely be a tie between the golden eagle and martial eagle (edge to the martial eagle), but the others are close behind.  Another bird that might compete is the lammergeyer.  This vulture is large (over 7kg), and is known for flying at great heights to drop bones they've carried with them to shatter on rocks below (and eat the marrow inside).  It would probably need a decent weight advantage to deal with the other eagles, though.

hyena/canine ranking: The ranking of these animals greatly depends on the weight/size of each one.  I'll assume the best fighting weight for each animal for this list.  Most information on the domestic dogs will come from "Dog Bible: The Definitive Source For All Things Dog" by Kristin Mehus-Roe.  As a disclaimer I will mention that in no way do I condone dog fights (or animal fights) or abuse of any animal in any way.  This is, of course, for hypothetical/informative purposes.

1. Spotted hyena (70kg).  The durability of this animal is almost legendary, and its bone-crushing bite can end a fight quickly.  It is no stranger to conflict.

2. Elite bully kutta (77kg).  The Pakistani mastiff has large muscles, thick bones, and large, wide jaws.  It is a very agile dog, and can reach over 95kg in weight.  It cannot take on a grey wolf or a tosa inu at equal weights, but the one used here is simply large enough to be favored over them.

3. Grey wolf (60kg).  The grey wolf is first & foremost a team player when it comes to conflicts, but its large bite and durability serve it well in one-on-one matchups.  It would be a good match for a tosa at equal weights, but this weight advantage seals the deal.

4. Elite tosa inu (55kg).  The Japanese mastiff is one of the most formidable combatants in the domestic dog world.  It has a wrestling-like fighting style, and is almost impossible to hold down.  It is muscular & powerful, has powerful jaws, and may be aggressive to other dogs.  They range from 41-109kg in weight, but the most capable combatants of this breed (pound-for-pound) are the smaller ones (45-55kg).

5. Elite American pitbull terrier (30kg).  This is probably the most formidable member of the dog family on a pound-for-pound basis.  It is solid & muscular, and has a large, broad, powerful head.  Ones trained to fight are fearless & continue to fight despite injury.  It rushes in immediately and latches on with its jaws (typically throat or face).  I would favor this dog against most other animals in its weight range.  Lack of size is the only thing that lands it at #5 on this list.

At equal weights this list would be as follows: APBT, hyena, wolf, tosa, bully kutta.

Best regards.  

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Questions regarding animal conflicts within realistic or unrealistic settings are welcome; my strength lies in medium-to-large species. Small animals (including birds of prey), prehistoric animals, sea creatures, and domestic dog breeds are usually within my scope, but to a lesser degree. I can't confidently answer hypothetical questions about human vs animal, arachnids, insects, or amphibians, but I am willing to field them nonetheless.


From a young age, I have been interested in animals. Starting with the original Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom and World Book Encyclopedias, I have seen many animal shows and documentaries and have read multiple books on the subject. I have a solid understanding of the physiology of many animals and interspecies conflict in general.

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