Interspecies Conflict/Dogs Wolves etc


Hello BK. I have a few questions
12 grey wolves vs Lion
Tibetan Mastiff 60kg vs 50 kg Wolf
Tosa 50kg vs Wolf 35 kg
200kg wild boar vs 3 grey wolves (50kg)
200kg wild boar vs hypothetical 200kg grey wolf
3 200kg wild boars vs hippo
10 Polar Wolves vs 250kg polar bear
Shatoon bear (rogue bear,a non-hibernating bear ) vs wolf pack (6 individual)
Smilodon vs Andrewsarchus

thanks for answers

Hello Salvater.

12 grey wolves vs Lion: A male African lion can weigh over 4 times as much as a grey wolf.  Grey wolves have great endurance, are masters at teamwork, and work together well to overpower much larger animals (like elk & moose).  They attack from all sides, typically using a "bite & retreat" method (some may hang on), and wait until the quarry has weakened before pulling it to the ground.  Wolves won't sustain an attack that poses a great risk to the pack, and will probably try to intimidate a lion into retreat instead of attacking it if contact becomes necessary (wolves defending pups, etc.).  Wolves live near tigers in some parts of the world and typically avoid any contact with these powerful striped cats (and would likely afford the lion the same respect).  Lions have strength, speed, agility, athleticism, and the ability to battle at a very high level for a short amount of time (typical "big cat" attributes).  The male lion is charged with the protection of the pride.  Other male lions will often attempt to invade the pride to gain territory and females, and the leader of the pride must do battle (sometimes to the death) to keep his throne.  As a result, male lions are constantly fighting other male lions.  Lions often encounter spotted hyenas (which hunt and fight in groups like wolves do) with violent outcomes, so a lion is no stranger to engaging multiple opponents.  However, 5 spotted hyenas are usually a solid challenge for a single male lion, and 12 grey wolves (which are almost as formidable individually as the spotted hyena) will probably be overwhelming for the cat if they choose to attack it with determination.  Wolves usually aim for the face, side, and hindlimbs of a herbivore as they alternate to land bites, but their strategy against an animal as formidable as a lion will require more caution.  The wolves will have endurance on their side, so their chances will increase in this battle as time goes by.  Using its quickness and weaponry (jaws and claws), a lion can easily kill a small group of wolves, and can probably hold its own against at least 6 of them.  12 will be too many, though.  Grey wolves win.

Tibetan Mastiff 60kg vs 50kg Wolf: The Tibetan Mastiff is a large shaggy dog with a deep,  intimidating bark.  It can make a good guardian, and can be stubborn at times.  There are some domestic dogs that can give a grey wolf a tough battle at close weights, but the Tibetan Mastiff isn't one of them.  A grey wolf will have greater endurance and agility, and its jaws will be larger and stronger.  A Tibetan Mastiff can drive a grey wolf away in a realistic situation (wolves aren't as confident solo as they are with the pack), but the wolf has too many physical advantages to lose a serious battle at these weights.  Tibetan Mastiffs can get much heavier than 60kg and a big one might be a solid adversary for a 50kg wolf on occasion (they have defended flocks against predators), but this dog isn't large enough.  Wolf wins.   

Tosa 50kg vs Wolf 35kg:  Tosas can be very skilled at fighting (and 50kg is a great weight for one), and are sometimes trained for this purpose.  Tosas can be trained to merely "wrestle" in a contest (and they're very good at this), but will bite in a serious conflict.  These dogs are right at the top among canine combatants, and one trained to fight will be a tough opponent for any wild canid in its weight range.  35kg will be small for a grey wolf and typical for a red wolf.  Wolves are more comfortable fighting as a group, but they are capable one-on-one combatants as well.  An untrained Tosa will likely lose to a wolf even with this weight advantage, but a trained one will have enough size and skill to overcome the wolf more times than not.  Edge to 50kg Tosa.

200kg wild boar vs 3 grey wolves (50kg): The shoulder height of each grey wolf will be about 85% of the wild boar's.  A wild boar is a hardy animal with a tough hide and good lateral quickness.  It is armed with very sharp tusks that can slice and gouge into the body of an adversary with great effect.  Many animals across the world (tigers, wolves, bears, etc.) prey upon wild boars, but these suids can be very dangerous quarry for any predator.  Grey wolves avoid attacking dangerous animals if easier prey is available, but these canids have succeeded in overpowering large herbivores as formidable as moose and bison (often with the help of deep snow).  This wild boar can certainly be overcome by these 3 average-sized grey wolves, but this boar is a large one, and it can easily kill a wolf with a quick slash of its tusks.  Edge to wild boar.    

200kg wild boar vs hypothetical 200kg grey wolf: The grey wolf will stand about 1/3 taller at the shoulder than the wild boar.  Wolves are great hunters in a pack, and one hunting solo isn't as much in its comfort zone.  However, a wolf can and will tackle prey items without help.  A wolf is certainly capable of bring down an equal-sized wild boar with the right attack, but a face-to-face encounter with one will be a big challenge.  A wolf has good lateral quickness (side-to-side; front-to-back), but so does a wild boar.  A wolf has strong jaws and sharp teeth (with different ones designed to hold, slice, and crush), but a boar's tough hide is difficult to penetrate.  The tusks of a boar can have very sharp edges, and can easily slash into a wolf's hide.  Basically the boar can employ its offense more readily, and its defenses are better.  Wild boar wins.

3 200kg wild boars vs hippo: A male hippopotamus can weigh over 13 times as much as a wild boar and stand 50% taller at the shoulder.  Hippos typically lose their territorial ferocity once they venture out onto land, and might be driven away by these wild boars on occasion in a realistic confrontation (if the hippo chooses not to stand its ground).  If both parties are determined to rumble, the wild boars should be quick enough to avoid the front end of the hippopotamus with some consistency and attack it from the sides.  The tusks of the boars can cause problems for the hippo (and can potentially penetrate its thick skin), but the boars will need an accumulation of slashes to disable it.  The hippopotamus can make quick turns with its head, however, and any boar getting close enough to it jaws will be finished in one chomp.  The wild boars probably won't have the know-how to form any kind of a strategy other than "charge & slash" and might not be able to divide the hippo's attention.  Because the boars don't have the ability to leap upon the hippo (no real vertical movement), the chances of one of them getting caught by the hippo (trampled or bitten) at some point as they continue their attack is decent.  Overcoming a large animal as a team isn't something wild boars are accustomed to doing.  Hippo wins.

10 Polar Wolves vs 250kg polar bear: This polar bear will weigh about 4 times as much as an Arctic wolf (wolf found in the polar region).  Today's polar bears can exceed 500kg, so this one will be relatively small (about 1.1m at the shoulder).  Arctic wolves are similar to grey wolves, and operate in much the same way to tackle animals as large as a muskox (400kg).  Polar bears, with bodies made for swimming, are a bit more slender than brown bears.  However, they are extremely strong from nose-to-tail, and demonstrate this by smashing holes in thick ice and pulling heavy seals out of the water.  Polar bears have thick blubber under their fur to insulate them from the chilly Arctic weather, and can swim many miles without stopping (but can potentially overheat with extensive activity like running or fighting).  Polar bears often attack walruses on land, but full-grown ones are avoided due to the danger they pose.  A 250kg polar bear can easily kill a single wolf with its claws and teeth, but facing 10 of them will divide its focus and significantly reduce its chances to inflict serious injuries.  The wolves will attack intermittently from all sides until the bear is worn down.  Even a full-sized polar bear (680kg) will have trouble against 10 wolves.  Polar wolves win.    

Shatoon bear (rogue bear, a non-hibernating bear) vs wolf pack (6 individual): This will depend on the size of the bear (I'm not familiar with the term "shatoon").  Assuming it is a brown bear (most of which hibernate), it will be one of the strongest animals pound-for-pound and have exceptional endurance.  Bears often encounter wolves, and are no stranger to fighting them at carcass sites.  A large grey wolf can weigh close to 60kg (and more in exceptional cases), but usually will average between 45-50kg.  Wolves are practiced at hunting and fighting in a pack, but a large bear poses a great threat to them in a conflict.  A paw swipe or crunching bite can seriously injure a wolf with ease, and a wolf pack won't persist with an attack if doing so puts pack members in great peril.  Once the bear (again, assuming it's a brown bear) in this scenario exceeds 300kg or so, it will likely be an close battle on most occasions and the wolf pack will have trouble overtaking it (the bear may drive the wolves away; the wolves may drive the bear away; a wolf being killed would be more likely than the bear being killed).  Many male Kodiak bears do not hibernate, and a 680kg one would easily dominate a pack of 6 wolves.  Male polar bears don't hibernate, and they would have no trouble with the wolves either.  Spectacled (or Andean) bears, sloth bears, panda bears, and sun bears don't hibernate, and all of them would be in trouble against a pack of 6 wolves.  The Asiatic black bear only hibernates in the colder parts of its range; most do not hibernate (except pregnant females), and it would be in trouble against 6 wolves.  An American black bear (which hibernates) can weigh 4 1/2 times as much as a wolf, but will likely be outmatched by 6 of them.  

Smilodon vs Andrewsarchus: Smilodon populator was the largest of the Smilodons and the only one that would have a chance to defeat an Andrewsarchus.  The Andrewsarchus (using the top-end conservative estimates) will weigh 2 1/2 times as much as the Smilodon.  Smilodon populator was one of the largest cats ever to exist (along with the Ngandong tiger and the American lion).  It was very muscular and robust, and had the ability to ambush and overpower large prey items by wrestling them to the ground.  Smilodon was armed with long upper canines (over 28cm in length) that were used to penetrate into a vulnerable area (likely the throat) of a victim.  Andrewsarchus was one of the largest predatory land mammals ever to walk the earth (possibly the weight of a bison).  The only remains found so far of Andrewsarchus are part of a skull, so its robustness is somewhat in question.  Andrewsarchus had a huge skull (almost 1m in length) with bone-crushing teeth.  A Smilodon was capable of overpowering animals the size of Andrewsarchus, but these prey items likely didn't have the ability to fight back as well as an Andrewsarchus would, and a face-to-face battle is a larger challenge than an ambush.  If the body of Andrewsarchus was slender and its weight close to the weight of the Smilodon, the cat would have a decent chance to prevail.  However, at the given weights, the Andrewsarchus will be too big and dangerous.  Edge to Andrewsarchus.

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Questions regarding animal conflicts within realistic or unrealistic settings are welcome; my strength lies in medium-to-large species. Small animals (including birds of prey), prehistoric animals, sea creatures, and domestic dog breeds are usually within my scope, but to a lesser degree. I can't confidently answer hypothetical questions about human vs animal, arachnids, insects, or amphibians, but I am willing to field them nonetheless.


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