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About Brother Rando
Expertise Jehovah is the same now and has been from time indefinite to time indefinite. God never changes. "God is not a man that he should tell lies, Neither a son of mankind that he should feel regret." (Numbers 23:19) However, the Only-Begotten Son has a different History. Michael the Archangel, who is "the beginning of ALL Creation", humbled himself and became a "perfect man" through human birth and was given a name, Jesus (Pilippians2:6-11) anointed "Christ" by Jehovah's Holy Spirit at 30,(John 1:32-36)resurrected to a "Superior Position". (Philippians 2:9,10) When Exalted to Heaven to the angels who were imprisoned during Noah's Time.(1Peter 3:19) He preached that angels and authorities and powers were now made subject to him.(1Peter3:22) Satan rejected Michael's "Superior Position" (Philippians 2:9) and rejected his new Name (Jesus) Rev 3:12 so that every knee should bend of those in heaven.(Philippians 2:10) In 1914, War broke out in Heaven when Christ and his angels cleansed the heavens of satan's influence.(Rev 12:7-19) Satan is now deceiving the inhabited earth about this Glorious Good News about the Christ.(2 Cor 4:4) John called Jesus, "the Lamb of God" at the time of his Anointing.(John 1:36) Michael and Jesus are the same person in being the Chief Son. Michael was created by Jehovah God and brought AGAIN into the inhabited earth, GIVEN authority over Heaven and earth as "Jesus Christ".(Heb 1:6-9) However "Woe to the earth" because the Devil having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time. (Rev 12:12) The battle over Jehovah's Sovereignty is between two Angels. Christ and Satan.(Rev 12:7) Jesus is the Archangel that battles Satan.(1 Thess 4:16) Also, read Galatians 4:14, Exodus 14:19, 1 Cor 10:1-4 Heb 5:5,5:8 Acts 13:33 Psalms 2:7-9 Exodus 23:20-21. Research Angel of Great Counsel. Jesus Christ,“the Faithful Witness,”(Rev 1:5) These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God.(Rev 3:14)
Experience I am a baptized Jehovah's Witness bearing Witness to "The Truth" for decades now and will gladly answer questions from sheep like one's. The wolves I will pummel and continue to Conquer, for the One that Conquers is given the morning star! (Rev 2:28)
Organizations I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, has appointed over his belongings in the Last Days. This Slave is Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the World organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has fallen, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes.
Publications 1 Thess 4:16 Scripture stating "the Lord himself", "Commanding Call", "Archangels' Voice", and "God's Trumpet" give overwhelming evidence that this is the "word of God" himself. The fact remains that Jesus is called "the word of God", and for good reason. He alone is Jehovah's Chief Messenger! Archangel when Translated means "Chief Son" or "Principle Son". Yes, Even Foremost Son. This Chief Messenger delivers God's message of Salvation that everyone believing in him might be saved! In prayer, Jesus refers to his Father has "the only true God". (John 17:3)
Education/Credentials Extensive Study of Religions and the Scriptures I am able to answer questions few people know about or can even answer. Many of my fellow brothers and sisters are given Insight as they learn from the True God Jehovah, who is the "Revealer Of Secrets." I am Nothing but a fellow messenger who slaves for His Master. I am NOT an EXPERT, I know "the truth" and that "the truth" is my brother and I do what "my brother" wants of me. As for the World, it Hates me as the World hated my brother before me. Amen.
Awards and Honors Here's a NON JW Site discrediting the Trinity in great detail. Others are finding that the Jehovah Witnesses are RIGHT! http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/adrianbiblestudents/trinityfalsedoctrine.html
In the deceptive translation of the KJV, it denies that Christ died and was risen on the third day, instead the KJV states Jesus and the evildoer went to Paradise in the same day they were to die. "today you will be with Me in Paradise." (Luke 23:43 KJV) A clever way to deny that Christ was to rise on the third day! The NWT is the only correct translation of ALL translations, stating, “Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.” JW's know that Christ went to Sheol for parts of three days. Satan wants you to believe Jesus didn't die but went to Paradise? Trinitarians, Born Agains, and all of False Religion have rejected the sign of Jonah which Jesus gave. (Luke 11:29) Today, the same hypocrites deny the Parousia of the Christ and continue to deny the composite or collective sign of the Last Days that we have already entered!
Past/Present Clients It was evident that Paul preached to some of the scribes that he seen an angel and that this spirit was in fact Jesus in his true form even though premature. (Acts 9:3-5, Acts 23:9, Rev 22:16) The KJV is a "Doctrine of Mistranslations." Few know the KJV as well as JW's do. Theos when translated to English means (a god) as it is written in Acts 28:6. However, through Deception, the KJV leaves the article out of John 1:1. Which way is it "a" or not "a" is the question. Because if "a" is inserted then the True Scripture is revealed in John 1:1. And if the "a" is to be removed, then how can Paul be God in Acts 28:6? The KJV, simply a book of evolution that Christendom's Translators can't get right. LOL
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Expert: Brother Rando - 11/2/2009
Question Greeting Brother Rando
In discussions I have had with Jehovah Witnesses I usually find them to give scriptural answers. I do not always agree with the way that they interpret and apply verses but none the less most everything that you believe can be said to have a strong scriptural basis except in one area of theology. I wonder if I am missing something; in one area you seem to have no scriptures whatsoever to support your view and there are clear scriptures opposing your view that you do not have a sound defense for. I am speaking of your view that Jesus is now purely a spirit being and he did not rise in his body. Paul writes that Jesus has a glorified body and that we will receive one like his. The gospels have Jesus clearly saying "a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see that I have". Jesus also says "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up" and down a few lines and we read "but he was speaking of his body". We also read in Paul's writings "this corruption must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality." Why do you not believe this?
Answer You're not far off from the Kingdom of God. You actually answered your own question.
You wrote, "Paul writes that Jesus has a glorified body and that we will receive one like his." and "We also read in Paul's writings "this corruption must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality."
Now read what Jesus states, "It is the spirit that is life-giving; the flesh is of no use at all." (John 6:63)
So what kind of glorified bodies are in heaven?
"I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory."
"he makes his angels spirits," (Hebrew 1:7)
The difference between the ordinary angels and those given immortality is a precious gift from the Father.
"For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself." (John 5:26)
"Accordingly Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves." (John 6:53)
"The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (1 Corinth 15:45)
Surely Mary Magdalene knew what Jesus looked like but she thought he was someone else because he was in a different fleshly body. Angels materialize in fleshly form, this is nothing new.
"she viewed two angels in white sitting one at the head and one at the feet where the body of Jesus had been lying." (John 20:12)
"After saying these things, she turned back and viewed Jesus standing, but she did not discern it was Jesus." (John 20:14)
"She, imagining it was the gardener, said to him: “Sir, if you have carried him off, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away." (John 20:15)
By stating Jesus was resurrected in his own body, you deny Jesus's glorified body. Also, if Jesus took back his own body that was to be sacrificed, that sacrifice would be nullified. Think about this for a moment. Who is the one person that would love for you to deny the ransom sacrifice in Christ?
Of course Jesus had to convince his followers it was him. Why? I mean really now, if he was resurrected in his own body, he would have no need to convince his followers for they knew what he looked like. Right?
You also wrote, "Jesus clearly saying "a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see that I have" and in this sense "spirit" means ghost, apparition, vision, or vivid dream. Since Jesus materialized, it would only make sense he says flesh and bone for saying flesh and blood makes no sense at all.
In the final part you wrote, "Jesus also says "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up" and down a few lines and we read "but he was speaking of his body".
In the scriptures there are two meanings, one is physical and the other is spiritual. The first one, the scriptures indicate God raising Jesus from the dead on the third day.
"For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9)
Only Jehovah Witnesses acknowledge this scripture. The Whole World denies it, even the so called Christians of Christendom. Jesus is Lord not God and Jesus did not raise himself up but was raised by God from the dead on the third day. He was put to death on Friday afternoon, and resurrected in the early morning on Sunday. Two full days and nights, then on the third day he was resurrected.
Since Jesus stated (I) he was talking about the spiritual temple of God that is coming to a completion now. The New Jerusalem. The body of Christ which 144,000 are members of Christ Body.
" For just as the body is one but has many members, and all the members of that body, although being many, are one body, so also is the Christ. For truly by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit. For the body, indeed, is not one member, but many." (1 Corinth 12:12-14)
Remember, these receive a glorious body. "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22)
Just has two physical days have passed with Christ be resurrected on the third day. There is also a spiritual day of a thousand years and the second day is coming to a close and this temple of God, Jesus will raise on the third day and the healing of mankind will begin.
Why not have an in-depth bible study. https://watch002.securesites.net/contact/submit.htm
http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/article_04.htm
Brother Rando
PS.... "Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead YOU to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit." (1 Peter 3:18)
Saying Christ was resurrected in his flesh is to deny the ransom sacrifice for he was made alive in the spirit (this corruption must put on incorruption) that he may lead you to God.
"Consequently from now on we know no man according to the flesh. Even if we have known Christ according to the flesh, certainly we now know him so no more." (2 Corinth 5:16)
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