Jehovah`s Witness/shunning

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Robert wrote at 2009-09-16 16:24:40
This person should actually pose this question to someone who is actually a Jehovah's Witness.  That way he/she can get an answer from pro and anti JW people so that he/she can get a balanced answer.



Please note that although the general members of the congregation are encouraged not to seek association with someone who has been found to have bad conduct, the elders of the congregation always have a responsibility to encourage that wayward person to repent and come back into the fold.



Generally Derrick, you have a somewhat distorted and incorrect view on the beliefs and practices of the JW organization.   But this is a free country, and so have at it.


Derrick wrote at 2009-09-17 20:54:07
I believe it is you, Robert, who doesn't seem to have an accurate knowledge of his own religion's beliefs.  I seem to remember extending you an invitation to write me, since you take exception to my telling people that the Society teaches that one must become a JW to be saved.  So far, haven't heard a thing from you.  But like you said....its a free country.


Rachel wrote at 2009-10-01 15:30:06
The above information is inaccurate. Also, the term, "disassociate" is no longer used in the congregation. One is known only as: "No longer being one of Jehovah's Witnesses". Also-prior to even being able to be "disfellowshipped," one must have made a dedication to God personally, and symbolized it by water baptism. Prior to this, several studies of the Bible are completed, where you come to the understanding that if you do certain things, you CAN be disfellowshipped. Some people perform what is considered a "gross sin", and are not "put out of the congregation." They are sorry for what they have done, and the congregation assists them and does not "put them out." All of this information can be found in the Organized book, which is based on the Bible, and if you had been even an unbaptized publisher (which is what you are before you even get baptized), you would know this already. It appears you do not.


Rachel wrote at 2009-10-01 15:31:24
Also, the "shunning" is to provide discipline which the wrongdoer will either repent and return to the congregation, which happens more often than you are letting on. The "shunning" is also a protection for the congregation.


Tim wrote at 2014-04-05 18:52:38
This person's answer is fraudulent to say the least.  Either he does not know what he is talking about and is pretending otherwise, or is purposely lying to promote his personal prejudice.  Typically, the latter is the motivation in these.  


Derrick wrote at 2014-04-06 12:16:35
Tim, the problem with people like you, is that you never actually show WHAT was inaccurate in the answer.  It was a short answer, so why didn't you?  Simple...Because it was accurate.  A common practice of JWs, is to simply accuse everyone of lying or distorting the facts, when they do it themselves.  



But if there is something in my answer that was wrong, then by all means....Show us.  Don't just make unwarranted statements, hoping people will believe them.  Show us what the error was.  Why didn't you do that to begin with?


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I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.

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29 years of Biblical research into the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, and how they differ from the teachings of the Watchtower.

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I would advise each questioner to this forum, to carefully READ the profiles of the various volunteers. There are several such as myself, who are not practicing JWs, but will provide you with an accurate and honest answer, regarding JW teaching. If we don't know the answer, we will try to research and get it for you. There are also some excellent practicing JWs here, who also endeavor to give you a factual and honest answer, based on their point of view. I believe by getting both points of view, the questioner can weigh the evidence for themselves, and make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there are also 3 here who claim to be JWs, but do NOT give honest, or well-researched answers. They will tell you only what they want you to believe, and they often hide facts about the history of their religion, as well as print untruths about other people's beliefs. This is done in an attempt to deceive the unsuspecting reader. It can be easily seen who these 3 are, simply by reading the public posts and "answers" which they write. Their posts will normally be filled with personal attacks, and if you question them about some teaching or aspect of the Watchtower that makes them uncomfortable, they will often reject your question, question your motives for asking it, tell you that you have been reading "apostate" sites, or turn the conversation into an attack on another expert. These ones are better avoided, as there is nothing to be gained by way of positive discussion, as they are not interested in intelligent conversation, or honest dialogue. If after reading the forum, you still have any questions as to who they are, just ask me, and I will be happy to tell you. And I can also provide documentation of their willful dishonesty. One thing is for certain...in a forum where people from both sides claim to be "Christians", there should never be any willful lying. Such ones only create a distraction in the forum, and provide nothing of any real value.

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High School, some college. Studies of God's Word, the Bible, and how it compares to JW theology. I have found my own personal study and experiences to be far more valuable than any formal education or training. The Bible message is clear...Salvation is ONLY through and by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and no religious organization has a thing to do with it. While attendance at a Bible-preaching, Bible-believing church is a must for spiritual growth and fellowship, no church can grant salvation to its members. Nor is joining a particular group a prerequisite for being saved.

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