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QUESTION: Hello.

Why the great city is divided into three parts, before Babylon the Great(which is the great city in Rev17,18) comes in remembrance before God to judge her?

Which is are the cities of the nations?

Revelation
16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

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Why does it reads "where our Lord was crucified"? How is the prophecy talking about a place where our Lord was crucified since the great city symbol is not a particular literal city? (Many interpret 11:8 to refer in Jerusalem whore)

11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

ANSWER: Hello mate

Thanks for writing again.

What needs to be remembered is Revelation is a highly symbolic book.

This is also a symbolic event.

In other places in the Bible it is spoke of things being split when Jehovah destroys them here's a scripture in Micah

1: 4 "And the mountains must melt under him, and the low plains themselves will SPLIT apart, like wax because of the fire, like waters being poured down a steep place"

So in Revelation 16 we see a symbolic earthquake

Rev 16:

17 "and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great"

That it splits Babylon the great into "three parts". Split into three denoting "intense/extreme or even unredeemable destruction"

Not only that but all the "cities of the nations" fall this is symbolic of Satan's world that looks so secure collapsing.

Zeph 1:

16 "a day of horn and of alarm signal, against the fortified cities and against the high corner towers"

The whole account is symbolic of collapse and destruction

Rev 11:

8 "And when they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. And their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was also impaled"

The verse itself tells you it carries a spiritual meaning Jesus was of course was impaled in Jerusalem, but Sodom means a defiled Jerusalem

Isaiah 1:

9 "Unless Jehovah of armies himself had left remaining to us just a few survivors, we should have become just like Sod′om, we should have resembled Go·mor′rah itself.
10 Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU dictators of Sod′om"

and Egypt means it's part of Satan's system of things

Isaiah 19:

19 "In that day there will prove to be an altar to Jehovah in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to Jehovah beside its boundary"

So it's symbolic of a corrupt nation claiming to serve God. It symbolizes Christendom.

Now hopefully you can see after looking at the evidence how Babylon the great can't be the city of Jerusalem a city less than a mile square that doesn't even ride on the back of the wild beast but half of it fights against it.

Follow up if you need

Take Care







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QUESTION: Thanks. Two other questions I thought.

1)Why is "she and the kings of the world" instead of "the whores and the kings of the world"?  Suggestion : is singular used to point Babylon's pre-eminent role as the first fornicator?

2)The opposite of Babylon the Great whore is virgin "New Jerusalem". Does this name suggests that an "old" virgin became whore and was rejected? So, is it possible that Revelation focuses also on old Jerusalem's destruction and Babylon the Great symbol hides two realities? First reality = unfaithful Jerusalem, second reality = the whole false religious system. As you I have read and as you teach in some WT articles, Jesus prophecies were twofold. About judgement against literal Jerusalem(66-70a.d 42months) and judgement against the whole false religion world.

Take care, have a good day

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Hello again

Thanks for writing

<<<<<<<<<<<1)Why is "she and the kings of the world" instead of "the whores and the kings of the world"?  Suggestion : is singular used to point Babylon's pre-eminent role as the first fornicator?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Because Babylon the great is ALL the false worshippers throughout history that is why the singular is used. There is only one

<<<<<<<2)The opposite of Babylon the Great whore is virgin "New Jerusalem". Does this name suggests that an "old" virgin became whore and was rejected?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well technically you could say yes. Because Cain is the first member of Babylon the great he would have been a worshipper of Jehovah originally and turned bad. But of course there's always just been claimed worshippers of God who in reality never worshipped Jehovah and of course those who turned apostate all those would have been virgins and the defected.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<So, is it possible that Revelation focuses also on old Jerusalem's destruction and Babylon the Great symbol hides two realities?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Revelation is a book of prophecy not of history. We have these words here right at the beginning.

Rev 1 "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place"

All these things happen after the Roman empire

Rev 17: 10 And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while. 11 And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction"

You're suggestion only is the case if where looking at a historical prophecy one that has already taken place to us, where we are in the stream of time.

Revelation is the only book in the Bible that focuses SOLELY on the last day prophecies.

Now of course I'm not saying that the apostate Jews weren't part of Babylon the great or the Egyptians or those from Tyre or any other false worshipper. But Babylon the Great spoken in Revelation is every single one of these put together. Her sins are counted up and she is dealt with accordingly.

A bit like if a man goes on a crime spree when he get's caught all his crimes are added to together for his punishment. That's what it's similar too.

Follow up if you need

Take Care  

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