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Hi Bro DW,

Well I see we have to put up with the unhealthful teachings of the apostate Richard, who wants to celebrate Christmas with his family and have a phenomenal time, try to justify it in his own mind...although there is no justification for it according to scripture.  A person who wants to do something that is wrong, will come up with all kinds of self justifications.  But regardless of their incorrect views, the Bible still proves right.  The Trinity is not a Biblical teaching no matter what. And neither is Christmas. This is him here

2 Tim 4:3,4 "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories"

The Trinity contradicts the Bible, so whoever tries to explain it by the Bible will be contradictory, so if they admit it's not in the Bible and then turn around and say but it's what the Bible says, that doesn't make it Biblical, then Richard wants to say ah ha, they didn't put in the whole quote....I'm going to put up the whole quote so that I can justify my own views.  Didn't work!!

Well the whole quote like you said may be irrelevant to the subject at hand, plus if they themselves admit it's not Biblical but then turn around and try to justify it, there is no need to quote all that, when the point at hand is satisfied with the fact that they admitted it's not Biblical.

That's like if I'm trying to explain to someone why lying is bad, and I use the Scripture at Rev. 21:8 and I point to the last part that says "and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This means the second death.”

And someone comes back and says ah ha, you misquoted because the whole quote says this:

Rev. 21:8 "But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and fornicators and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This means the second death.”

OK, but that part about lying is still there....

The subject was about lying, so I used the relevant part in the lesson.  Doesn't mean one is misquoting....

When a person tries to justify their wrong doing and make it be what they want instead of what the Bible really teaches, they end up looking really pathetic.  I can tell someone the moon is made of cheese all day long, doesn't make it so.  

So no matter how many times they say the Trinity or xmas is Biblical, it doesn't make it so....in all the extended quotes, he still can't prove from the Bible that the Trinity is a Biblical teaching.  So then the old faithful is used, "it's a mystery"  

The opposers/apostates all keep grabbing at straws that end up making them look silly and desperate on a site where they DO NOT BELONG to begin with!  Now that's whats really pathetic and cynical and sneaky and deceptive. Go to the critics page...there is one you know!!!

The Truth according to the Bible is still the truth, and Christmas will never be truth, it's a lie from the word say go.  The Trinity will never be truth...no matter how bad they want it to be, it won't.  Why?  Because Jehovah says so and the Bible proves it!

Agape

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Hi Sis

Thanks for writing.

You know that's the entire point. You teach things relevant to the subject. We do it all the time you don't always quote whole scriptures when you need to make a point just the relevant part, exactly like the example you mentioned.Anyone who knows anything about teaching knows you stick to the point and make it as nice and simple as possible.

Notice this Richard say's he's been on his ministry for years to ex-witnesses(or words to that effect) yet look at exactly what his ministry is he's just trying to undermine the WTBTS trying to make us look like liars and hypocrites a complete attempt at shipwrecking but offering nothing in replacement.Wolves just tearing away, that's what wolves do. They also go in where they don't belong see the similarities. It's the same old chestnut with these ones and the same tired old argument over and over and over again they're a complete joke.

He must be nearly as stupid as Derrick coming on this board and attempting to take us all on here.This is the worst place to start his Satanic nonsense. He can't have read my profile or seen the board for very long else he wouldn't have picked a fight with me. Everyone that has faced me toe to toe has got crushed, some multiple times and everyone that attempts to face me will get crushed. How can Jehovah lose?? It's impossible!!!

Agape Sis

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I have many years of experience serving Jehovah . I have known Jehovah a long time and I have known his organization . I have been privileged to see great progress not only in my own personal relationship with my God and Father but within his organization. I am an avid reader of the bible and have been gifted by my Father with the indescribable privilege of being allowed to understand his own word.

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The truth is all about scripture and logic. The two go hand in hand . There is not one bible verse that cannot be understood within the realms of human reasoning. Not one!! Why would it?? The bible is God's message to his creation . His creation who he made to understand things in a specific way. God is not stupid or unwise as to leave as a message then allow us to guess what it means or who he is. 1 Tim 2:3This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth" Notice the expression "accurate knowledge".

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The bible leaves signs of true christianity there are many. Jehovah's witnesses meet every single sign. One sign is the removal of false teachings that permeated the world soon after the apostles died. Jesus foretold this and he also foretold of the restoration of pure worship in the period known as the last days. The days we are currently living in. Jesus was a master of using illustrations he used an illustration to highlight this point Matt 13: "The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. 25While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. 27So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ 28He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse" Why did he speak in illustrations? Matt 13:10So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted" The kingdom of the heavens is full of sacred secrets that Jesus reveals only to his followers. This privilege is open to all who are really willing to submit to God and his Christ in action not just in words. These are the ones God is looking for. Are you really one?? If so I encourage you to let Jehovah's witnesses show you what the Bible really teaches.

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False religion is disgusting to God and to his true worshippers it is likened in the Bible to a harlot Rev 17:"I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication" Whereas the bride of Christ is likened to a virgin Rev 14: 4"These are the ones who did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins" These are both used as spiritual terms here and show the importance of pure and clean worship for God's people.

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