Jehovah`s Witness/YOUR LIES ON PROPHET GRUNBALM

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I'M A FOLLOWER OF PROPHET GRUNBALM AND REALLY ENJOY HIS THREADS AND I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME YOU GET CALLED OUT ON YOUR LIES ON HIM.THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE READ WHERE YOU CLAIM HE IS IN NY HEADQUARTERS YOU BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SOMETIME NOW IT'S YOU ATTEMPT TO CAST THE WATCHTOWER IN A BAD LIGHT.AS A RECENT NEW STUDY WITH THE PROPHETS HELP IAND BEING AT THE HALL HERE IN TEXAS I CAN SAY THEY WOULD NOT SEND A REPRESENTITIVE TO A SITE OF WOLVES ,HALF NAKED WOMEN LOOKING FOR A DATE AND A SITE OFFERING DEMONIC FREE PSYCHIC READINGS. YOU TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK BELIEABLE BECAUSE ROBERT JONES IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE TOLD YOU,YOU DONT COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY WHO HE IS BUT THATS WHO YOU MEAN,YOU DONT EVEN COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY WHO THE PERSON IS BUT IT WAS CLEAR AT LEAST TO ME WHO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.IT'S TIME YOU WERE CALLED OUT ON THIS LIE.STOP TRYING TO CAST THE WATCHTOWER IN A BAD LIGHT.


EDDIE

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First off, Dude, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.  Robert Jones has nothing to do with that statement.  Mr. Jones, in fact, disagreed with me awhile back on whether or not Grunbaum is at Headquarters.  I got that information from Grunbaum himself, when he was on here as Daniel Selinski.


Now, you best get your facts straight before you flap about something you obviously know nothing about.  Your writing here made you look pretty foolish.

I do think its odd that you think Grunbaum being at Headquarters would cast the Society in a bad light, though.  Why would you think that, Eddie?  Hmm?  

Your first sentence said it best..."I'm a follower of prophet Grunbaum".  You should be a follower of Jesus Christ, instead.  Wasn't Grunbaum the guy who insulted you because you didn't turn off your caps lock key, and even bought you a new computer that had a functioning caps lock key?  That was a waste of money, evidently.  Anyway, it doesn't really bother me because I know you are just frustrated and trying to change the subject back to me, because your Witness friends are being exposed for their lies.  Doesn't work, Eddie.  Sorry.

Now, you didn't get one single fact correct in your tirade here.  Robert Jones is not the one who told me that....Grunbaum HIMSELF is the one who told me that.  So, you claim it "was clear to you who I meant".  Yet, it wasn't as clear as you claim, now was it?  You were completely wrong.

Now Eddie, why don't you just ask him yourself?  Then you can come back and apologize to me, unless you have already learned from your Witness friends that "we don't apologize to non-Witnesses in the forum", even when we make false statements.

So, next time you write me Eddie, I would appreciate it if you would LIST A LIE FROM ME, if you are going to title your question as such.  Otherwise, you are just like the rest...hot air.

Show the lies, or don't waste my time with this foolishness.

And by the way Eddie, you MISSPELLED Grunbaum's name...Don't let Sister T see that, or she will be all over your case.

Besides Eddie, if this is a site of wolves, half naked women, and psychic readings, then WHY ARE YOU here??

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I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.

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29 years of Biblical research into the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, and how they differ from the teachings of the Watchtower.

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I would advise each questioner to this forum, to carefully READ the profiles of the various volunteers. There are several such as myself, who are not practicing JWs, but will provide you with an accurate and honest answer, regarding JW teaching. If we don't know the answer, we will try to research and get it for you. There are also some excellent practicing JWs here, who also endeavor to give you a factual and honest answer, based on their point of view. I believe by getting both points of view, the questioner can weigh the evidence for themselves, and make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there are also 3 here who claim to be JWs, but do NOT give honest, or well-researched answers. They will tell you only what they want you to believe, and they often hide facts about the history of their religion, as well as print untruths about other people's beliefs. This is done in an attempt to deceive the unsuspecting reader. It can be easily seen who these 3 are, simply by reading the public posts and "answers" which they write. Their posts will normally be filled with personal attacks, and if you question them about some teaching or aspect of the Watchtower that makes them uncomfortable, they will often reject your question, question your motives for asking it, tell you that you have been reading "apostate" sites, or turn the conversation into an attack on another expert. These ones are better avoided, as there is nothing to be gained by way of positive discussion, as they are not interested in intelligent conversation, or honest dialogue. If after reading the forum, you still have any questions as to who they are, just ask me, and I will be happy to tell you. And I can also provide documentation of their willful dishonesty. One thing is for certain...in a forum where people from both sides claim to be "Christians", there should never be any willful lying. Such ones only create a distraction in the forum, and provide nothing of any real value.

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High School, some college. Studies of God's Word, the Bible, and how it compares to JW theology. I have found my own personal study and experiences to be far more valuable than any formal education or training. The Bible message is clear...Salvation is ONLY through and by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and no religious organization has a thing to do with it. While attendance at a Bible-preaching, Bible-believing church is a must for spiritual growth and fellowship, no church can grant salvation to its members. Nor is joining a particular group a prerequisite for being saved.

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