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hai DW

please do the same thing:


Hello again Dave

You know someone's just wrote to me about the same thing this is how I replied.


Hello mate

Thanks for writing

You see this is the problem with these sort of people not only can they not understand when somethings shown to them simply like you would explain to a child they're also complete hypocrites.

<<<Wow! Let me paraphrase... "We, the Watchtower, will find a few words that agree with our belief system despite all the words around it.  Context does not explain what you said, it contradicts what you said.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now you see firstly he only reads what he wants to read.

I never ONCE said the context was pro trinity. I said some of the statements where contradictory.

How does a contradictory statement make it pro trinity?? It makes it anti trinity!!! hahahaha

A trinitarian admits there's no Biblical concept of a trinity. Yet he's making a pro trinity statement hahahahaha .Are you Derrick, are you Derrick, are you Derrick in disguise(football fans understand this chant)

It's like me saying "Biblically Jehovah's witnesses aren't God's people. But they are God's people" and then claiming that the context is pro Jehovah's witness, hahahaha

But also notice the hypocrisy the other day he was pulling out all sorts trying to prove that we're anti Christmas when we really should be pro Christmas. Yet the context was showing everyone why we we're anti Christmas. They where the bits he neglected to put in.

Then look at his further hypocrisy in the fact that he willingly attempts to paraphrase but criticizes us for doing the same thing!!

So the hypocrisy is evident in this man.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<So, to sum up...
1) DW acknowledges that the intent of the authors was pro-Trinity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I never acknowledged anything of the sort!!

Watch the twist on the facts here.

Let's not forget the subject of the trinity brochure is the ontological trinity and whether it's biblical

Out of all the quotes he gave me only one you could say was a trinitarian and a further one could be construed that way so let's ASSUME it's two ontological trinitarians.

But here's the point whether they're a pro trinitarian or not the issue is. You have a pro trinitarian actually saying that the trinity is not a Biblical concept. That's the issue. It's irrelevant whether they believe the trinity or not.

All trinitarians go with unbiblical concepts they always just put their own opinion on things all of them do it. So it's like I said before "it would be like me saying "oh biblically Jehovah's witnesses aren't the right religion , but they are the right religion".

Then some Trinitarian quotes this bit from me "biblically Jehovah's witnesses aren't the right religion"

and then I say "yeah but i am pro Jehovah's witness so you're argument is not valid" hahahahahahaha ridiculous.

So it's got nothing to do with the intent of the authors being pro trinity. The authors made CLEAR statements related to the subject at hand, as I will show in a minute.

So notice how Richard twists the facts and misses a very simple point.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<2) DW acknowledges that the Watchtower hand-picked statements that, when isolated, appear anti-Trinity when the context surrounding it was pro-Trinity, thus giving a different thought than the person intended.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I never admitted anything of the sort!!

Of the two of my arguments Richard has homed in on neither was pro trinity they where both contradictory. A contradictory statement is not a pro trinity statement it's an anti trinity statement,it's an admission that the trinity is not biblical. Which is exactly what the trinity brochure was proving.

<<<<<<<<<<<<3) The Watchtower says that those qualified to be ministers do not quote by giving different thoughts than the person intended"

Now this is just a comment by a man who clearly likes to twist things around.

Notice this is his statement

"Be very careful to be accurate in all statements you make. Use evidence honestly. In quotations, do not twist the meaning of a writer or speaker or use only partial quotations to give a different thought than the person intended"

Now this is a correct statement but no where have we ever not been honest or twisted anything or given any other thought than what the person intended.

Here's the two things he's referring too under this sub heading.

Is It(the trinity) Clearly a Bible Teaching?

"A PROTESTANT publication states: “The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century"

Now did this person intend to tell us that the word trinity was not found in the Bible?? Yes otherwise he wouldn't have said it.This is a quote that he intended. Whether he then goes and contradicts his own quote is irrelevant. He's telling us the word trinity is not found in the Bible, simple!!

Here's the second quote.

Under this Chapter

How Did the Trinity Doctrine Develop?

Under this subheading

What Influenced It?

"trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians. ... three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology"

So was this person trying to tell us that the trinity was influenced by Eyptians or not?? The answer is yes. Else he wouldn't have said it.

Whether he believes in the trinity or not is irrelevant to what he's telling us here.

So we agree with this quote

"Be very careful to be accurate in all statements you make. Use evidence honestly. In quotations, do not twist the meaning of a writer or speaker or use only partial quotations to give a different thought than the person intended"

If you went up to these people and said.

Is the word trinity found in the Bible? They would say No


Did the Egyptians have trinities? They would say Yes

Every quote is honest. None are twisted. Every quote gives the thought the person intended to give else the person wouldn't have said it in the first place!!

So Richard like Derrick takes me on and again loses.

This is fun hahahaha

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I have many years of experience serving Jehovah . I have known Jehovah a long time and I have known his organization . I have been privileged to see great progress not only in my own personal relationship with my God and Father but within his organization. I am an avid reader of the bible and have been gifted by my Father with the indescribable privilege of being allowed to understand his own word.


The truth is all about scripture and logic. The two go hand in hand . There is not one bible verse that cannot be understood within the realms of human reasoning. Not one!! Why would it?? The bible is God's message to his creation . His creation who he made to understand things in a specific way. God is not stupid or unwise as to leave as a message then allow us to guess what it means or who he is. 1 Tim 2:3This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth" Notice the expression "accurate knowledge".

The bible leaves signs of true christianity there are many. Jehovah's witnesses meet every single sign. One sign is the removal of false teachings that permeated the world soon after the apostles died. Jesus foretold this and he also foretold of the restoration of pure worship in the period known as the last days. The days we are currently living in. Jesus was a master of using illustrations he used an illustration to highlight this point Matt 13: "The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. 25While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. 27So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ 28He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse" Why did he speak in illustrations? Matt 13:10So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted" The kingdom of the heavens is full of sacred secrets that Jesus reveals only to his followers. This privilege is open to all who are really willing to submit to God and his Christ in action not just in words. These are the ones God is looking for. Are you really one?? If so I encourage you to let Jehovah's witnesses show you what the Bible really teaches.

False religion is disgusting to God and to his true worshippers it is likened in the Bible to a harlot Rev 17:"I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication" Whereas the bride of Christ is likened to a virgin Rev 14: 4"These are the ones who did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins" These are both used as spiritual terms here and show the importance of pure and clean worship for God's people.

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