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bill wrote at 2013-01-18 04:43:57
And I notice that Derrick doesn't answer the question.


Derrick wrote at 2013-01-19 14:50:11
Well hello, Bill.  Glad to see you are still reading.



Actually Bill, the problem with my giving a definite answer, is that I want to be sure of the change in teaching before I state it as fact.  You should appreciate that.  Its tough to give a definite answer to a question, about a doctrine that keeps changing.  Gotta make sure my facts are straight, Bill.  You should be happy about that.



However Bill, if you will see my answer to Dee, you will notice that I actually DID give her, not just the previous teaching on the "Slave", but also what is apparently the new teaching, as well.  So, the question was answered.



Don't be a hypocrite, Bill....Its your own so-called "champion" that can't answer the question.  And according to you guys, only JWs are supposed to be "answering" questions here anyway.  So, write him about not answering.  His failure to answer, is the only reason the question was even sent to me.



Man, your hypocrisy knows no bounds, does it.  As I just said, the only reason I even received this question, is because the guy has had at least 10 exchanges with Grunbaum, asking HIM for an answer, which Grunbaum is YET to give.  



So, let me get this straight Bill, and then you can tell me how this isn't being hypocritical...Grunbaum, who CLAIMS to be a "champion" of JW doctrine, has failed to answer the question in at least 10 exchanges, but merely tries to turn it back around on the questioner, changes the subject, and starts demanding that the questioner answer HIM.  And then you come here and say..."I notice Derrick didn't answer the question".



Good one, Bill.  Thanks for more of the JW hypocrisy.  You seem to display a lot of that.



Hey Bill, perhaps YOU can write to me and either confirm, or deny, that the "Slave" is NOW the Governing Body.  


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I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.

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29 years of Biblical research into the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, and how they differ from the teachings of the Watchtower.

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I would advise each questioner to this forum, to carefully READ the profiles of the various volunteers. There are several such as myself, who are not practicing JWs, but will provide you with an accurate and honest answer, regarding JW teaching. If we don't know the answer, we will try to research and get it for you. There are also some excellent practicing JWs here, who also endeavor to give you a factual and honest answer, based on their point of view. I believe by getting both points of view, the questioner can weigh the evidence for themselves, and make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there are also 3 here who claim to be JWs, but do NOT give honest, or well-researched answers. They will tell you only what they want you to believe, and they often hide facts about the history of their religion, as well as print untruths about other people's beliefs. This is done in an attempt to deceive the unsuspecting reader. It can be easily seen who these 3 are, simply by reading the public posts and "answers" which they write. Their posts will normally be filled with personal attacks, and if you question them about some teaching or aspect of the Watchtower that makes them uncomfortable, they will often reject your question, question your motives for asking it, tell you that you have been reading "apostate" sites, or turn the conversation into an attack on another expert. These ones are better avoided, as there is nothing to be gained by way of positive discussion, as they are not interested in intelligent conversation, or honest dialogue. If after reading the forum, you still have any questions as to who they are, just ask me, and I will be happy to tell you. And I can also provide documentation of their willful dishonesty. One thing is for certain...in a forum where people from both sides claim to be "Christians", there should never be any willful lying. Such ones only create a distraction in the forum, and provide nothing of any real value.

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High School, some college. Studies of God's Word, the Bible, and how it compares to JW theology. I have found my own personal study and experiences to be far more valuable than any formal education or training. The Bible message is clear...Salvation is ONLY through and by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and no religious organization has a thing to do with it. While attendance at a Bible-preaching, Bible-believing church is a must for spiritual growth and fellowship, no church can grant salvation to its members. Nor is joining a particular group a prerequisite for being saved.

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