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Jehovah`s Witness/Eddie, Which Of These Are NOT "Poles"?


Is THIS a "xylon"?
Is THIS a "xylon"?  

Is THIS a "xylon"?
Is THIS a "xylon"?  
As promised, I am attaching images of my recent Google search of "telephone POLES".  

This search was necessary, because Eddie G wants to take a position that is ridiculous to any thinking person, and that most children would be able to see the fallacy of.  

Eddie has been asked repeatedly, just WHY he believes that attaching a cross-beam to a POLE, would cause the pole to CEASE being a pole?  So far, he has not given us a good answer to that question.

So, I have decided to try and put this in terms that he can understand, by giving him a visual to look at.  

Eddie, I Googled "Telephone POLE", not "Telephone CROSS".  I would like for you to tell us, which of these are no longer "poles"....

How About These?
How About These?  

How About These?
How About These?  
If the first two are hard, then try these last 2....

Again, the question is...Are these "poles", or do they cease to be "poles", because they look like crosses?  Or are they STILL "poles", albeit, with another piece of wood transversing the upright piece of wood?

Your answer?  I will be looking forward to your clearing this matter up, so that I can call the telephone company, and inform them of the error with eternal consequences, for falsely calling these objects "poles".

I certainly hope you will be able to clear this up, in your usual calm, rational, and sensible manner, without feeling the need to twist and distort, and be insulting.

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Derrick Holland


I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.


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