Jehovah`s Witness/40 period test and post 1000yrs.


Hi Bro. Rando! According to Jehovahs specific numbers in his Time table,I was wondering,since Jehovah has always tested or cleanse all his people for his specific reasons such as, Jesus Tested for 40days(Matt.4:1,2)& Moses was tested for 40 yrs in the wilderness, and etc.Tell me, is it me or do you also see that now that were at 38yrs after 1975 by this year of 2013 in this coming fall around Oct 1st,that we will be hitting a 40yr mark by 2015. And there is no doubt that Jehovah started a Testing with Cleanse from 1975  thats been ongoing up to now from all areas of his JWs organization. We know that Adam was created in the year 4026 B.C.E,and by 1975 he would be 6,000yrs old from that date.          Quote From our Faithful Slave in the WT 1976(I typed in Eve)and under 'Do you Remember?' "Why do we not know when Gods 'rest day' BEGAN and WHEN it will begin? Answer: "Although the time of Adam's creation CAN BE DETERMINED,the beginning of Gods 'rest day' cannot. This is because there was A TIME LAPSE of unspecified length between Adams creation and the creation of Eve. Not until after the creation of Eve did God's rest day begin. The start of that day being unknown ,its end is like wise unknown." end of quote.  So my question is since Jehovah has always used the number 40 in the scriptures for TESTING AND CLEANSING,is it more than likely from 4026 B.C.E.(Adams creation) to 3986 B.C.E,that Eve was created 40yrs later, SINCE ADAM WAS BEING TESTED WITH THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND BAD? Meaning 4026-Jehovahs specific number (40) for TESTING AND CLEANSING =3986 B.C.E, the year of Eves creation. And since Jehovah does not change in all his purposes in what and how he has alwaysed done things with his time table,(Mal.3:6) do you see a parrallel with 1975(Adams 6,000yr old) with 2015 possibly entering the 1,000yr from 2015/16 and ending in the year 3015/16?          Quote from WT 1955 4/11 under subtitle 'Final Test Applied' "Now as soon as the thousands years have been ended,Satan will be let loose out of his prison." Why is the Devil released from released from his thousand-year state of deathlike detention? Because A FINAL TEST must be made to determine who is worthy of recieving from the hands of Jehovah God the right to live on this earth forever."  End of quote So Bro. Rando, noticing  from how Jehovah has always tested and cleansed with his 40 periods, rather it be 40yrs,40 days,and 40hrs and etc, my thoughts are,just as Adam in his perfection was tested no doubt for 40yrs,will the people on earth,after the 1,000yr have ended and Satan loose,will they in their then perfected state be TESTED for 40YRS LIKEWISE according to Jehovahs Time Table since has always shown through biblical history and NEVER CHANGES WHO,AND HOW HES ALWAYS WORKED?(Mal.3:6) Your thoughts my Broher! P.S. When Bro. Russel was being Tested in Aug. 1878 to SOME TIME in 1879 in June when he broke ties of with N.H. Barbour when dealing with the Ransom issue,And a month later after he passed the Test in 1879 in Aug he started the Watchtower Magezine. Well in there between 1878 of  Aug to 1879 of June,I counted (40)Period time of WEEKS in 10 months!!! I Thanked Jehovah for having found you to help me see the things unseen my wonderful Bro.Rando! Thank you and may Jehovah keep Blessing you with his Holy Spirit.

Adam never went through a purification process. The timeline in the beginning as nothing to do with the end.  Satan was given an allotted amount of time to prove his theory.  Jehovah's Day of Rest began when he brought the woman to Adam.  "And by the seventh day God came to the completion of his work that he had made, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made.  And God proceeded to bless the seventh day and make it sacred, because on it he has been resting from all his work that God has created for the purpose of making." (Genesis 2:2-3)  

How long will Jehovah's Day of Rest be? We won't know until after the fact.  All we know is that Adam and Eve entered into that Day was short-lived.  That is why the Bible calls Satan, "the son of the dawn".  It was the beginning of the seventh Day that Jehovah decided to Rest and call it holy.  

However, we do know that the end of Jesus' millennial reign of a thousand years will co-inside with the end of the seventh day.   "Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power."  (1 Corinthians 15:24)  "But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." (1 Corinthians 15:28)

"However, if YOU had understood what this means, ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice,’ YOU would not have condemned the guiltless ones.  For Lord of the sabbath is what the Son of man is. ” (Matthew 12:7-8)   Jesus was trying to give understanding to those who judged him and his followers with a critical eye, but they had no "spiritual understanding".   

What was the point?  

During Christ Millennial Reign, faithful mankind will enjoy relief from the influences of the "wicked one".  "So he went on to say to them: “The sabbath came into existence for the sake of man, and not man for the sake of the sabbath; hence the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath.” (Mark 2:27-28)  The Sabbath in this case, was his princely rulership which would provide a healing for faithful mankind. "And to YOU who are in fear of my name the sun of righteousness will certainly shine forth, with healing in its wings; and YOU will actually go forth and paw the ground like fattened calves.” (Malachi 4:2)

Society's Explanation:

By the end of the Thousand Year Reign, all earth will have come to resemble the original Eden. It will be a veritable paradise. Perfect mankind will no longer need a high priest to intercede for it before God, since all traces of Adamic sin will have been removed and the last enemy, death, brought to nothing. Christ’s Kingdom will have achieved God’s purpose to create one world with one government. At this point, Jesus “hands over the kingdom to his God and Father.”—1 Corinthians 15:22-26; Romans 15:12.

Why is Jesus called “Lord even of the sabbath”?
“The Law has a shadow of the good things to come,” wrote the apostle Paul. (Heb. 10:1) As the Law stipulated, the Sabbath came after six days of work, and Jesus performed many of his cures on that day. This foreshadowed the peaceful rest and other blessings that mankind will experience under the Thousand Year Reign of Christ after the end of Satan’s oppressive rulership. Therefore, the King of that Kingdom is also “Lord of the sabbath.”—Matt. 12:8; Luke 6:5.

Entering Into God’s Rest.
According to Genesis 2:2, 3, following the sixth creative day, or period, God “proceeded to rest on the seventh day,” desisting from creative works with respect to the earth, as described in Genesis chapter 1.

The apostle Paul shows in Hebrews, chapters 3 and 4, that the Jews in the wilderness failed to enter into God’s rest, or sabbath, because of disobedience and lack of faith. (Heb 3:18, 19; Ps 95:7-11; Nu 14:28-35) Those who did enter the Promised Land under Joshua experienced a rest, but not the full rest to be enjoyed under the Messiah. It was only typical, or a shadow of the reality. (Jos 21:44; Heb 4:8; 10:1) However, Paul explains, “there remains a sabbath resting for the people of God.” (Heb 4:9) Those who are obedient and exercise faith in Christ thereby enjoy “a sabbath resting” from their “own works,” works by means of which they formerly sought to prove themselves righteous. (Compare Ro 10:3.) Thus Paul shows that God’s sabbath, or rest, was still continuing in his day and Christians were entering into it, indicating that God’s rest day is thousands of years long.—Heb 4:3, 6, 10.

“Lord of the Sabbath.”
While on earth, Jesus Christ referred to himself as “Lord of the sabbath.” (Mt 12:8) The literal Sabbath day, which was meant to bring the Israelites relief from their labors, was “a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ.” (Col 2:16, 17) In connection with those “things to come,” there is a sabbath of which Jesus is to be the Lord. As Lord of lords, Christ will rule all the earth for a thousand years. (Re 19:16; 20:6) During his earthly ministry, Jesus performed some of his most outstanding miraculous works on the Sabbath. (Lu 13:10-13; Joh 5:5-9; 9:1-14) This evidently shows the kind of relief that he will bring as he raises mankind to spiritual and physical perfection during his coming Millennial Rule, which thus will be like a period of sabbath rest for the earth and mankind.—Re 21:1-4. End of Society's Explanation.

What event signifies the end of the Lord's Sabbath?   "Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma′gog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. " (Rev 20:7-8)

Do you really understand these things?   It amazes me that anyone would be lost after the thousand years of Christ have ended, yet, scripture cannot be nullified. A final thought.  "It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction" (Acts 1:7)  "Men of Gal′i·lee, why do YOU stand looking into the sky? This Jesus who was received up from YOU into the sky will come thus in the same manner as YOU have beheld him going into the sky.” (Acts 1:11)

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Brother Rando is a student of Prophecy and one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing with the Faithful and Discreet slave. His interests are directed towards how the time of the end would come about. The earth’s population today is going through a physical, spiritual and emotional tribulation that has been prophesied concerning a time of distress as it enters into a cleansing period of removing wickedness by means of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 12:1) Brother Rando’s discussions are of keen interest to many who await for God's Kingdom. He asserts that his discussions are just that, and not Prophecies, nor does he make the claim to be inspired. His authority is the Bible. He proclaims the year 2034 to be of very high interest to all. Like a GPS, that gives Insight to location, 2034 allows us to gauge where we are in the stream of time according to God’s Will. According to Brother Rando, the Bible carries two thoughts in it’s passages, one is fleshy and the other is spiritual. Jesus Christ warned Peter of thinking fleshy and that this type of thinking is not from God. (Matthew 16:23) In order to measure time, a method of measurement is needed. Measuring time by “the day” would mean a 24 hour period. However, measuring “the day” spiritually would mean a period of time yet to be revealed using other scripture to interpret the method needed. By looking into the Bible, we can actually determine what God meant by “the day” when looking into his Word on how his Will would come about. As we read (Genesis 2:16-17) the punishment for disobedience was death “in the day”. As time went on, the scriptures do begin to reveal the time frame of “the day”. According to Genesis 5:5, Adam lived 930 years and then he died. Satan who thinks like a man, got it wrong! (Genesis 3:4-5) Why Study the Bible


In Brother Rando’s research of the Bible, he found scripture does interpret other scripture. The answer to how long a day was, according to God’s Will was found in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. This is vital to gaining understanding in how we are to measure time in God’s view. Spiritually and not fleshy or physical. A day in heavens time is a thousand years to us. It’s by this method we can measure time and where we are in the stream of time of the end. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) Was Jesus indicating that he was the Temple of God, God’s Kingdom? And that the temple would in fact be destroyed or broken down? According to God’s Word, the following scripture is the basis for Salvation. “For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9) In order for John 2:19 and Romans 10:9 to come in line, did Jesus utter a prophecy about God's Kingdom since he stated, “I will raise it up”? IF the basis for salvation is that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him up. We can conclude that Jesus did not raise himself up, but it was God that raised him from the dead since he was dead and conscious of nothing at all. (Ecc 9:5) Jesus prophesied that HE would raise God's Kingdom. (Rev 5:10) Jesus was speaking prophetically of raising the temple within the third day of a thousand years. Jesus warned Peter not to think the thoughts of man. (Matthew 16:23) Based on 2 Peter 3:8 we are able to determine the time frame to when God’s Kingdom would be raised up by Jesus Christ. Jesus was put to death on Nisan 14, 33CE. The two days would actually represent two thousand years and we come up with the year 2033. Jesus stated,“in three days I will raise it up.” So the third day is upon us in 2034.

“I fully support, acknowledge and cooperate with *The Faithful Steward and Its' Governing Body* of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, is appointing over his belongings. This Slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the Mountain-like organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has been destroyed, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes. Even though Babylon the Great is spoken as a woman and she has fallen in (Rev. 14:8), the sacred secret is that she is not a woman at all, but the World of False Religion that will be utterly destroyed by the personal hand of Jesus Christ as (King Abaddon) in the coming Great Tribulation never to be found again! (Matthew 24:14)

Secular Historians point to the Temple in Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. But was Jesus Christ speaking in a physical sense since that Temple is non-existent today? Jehovah Witnesses assert that Jesus under inspiration of Holy Spirit was actually prophesying about his spiritual body as the only means to approach his Heavenly Father. (John 14:6) Not the Temple made by hands or his fleshy body as Christendom claims, but his spiritual body, known as the Body of Christ. (1 Cor 12:27) This would actually be the Collective Representative of God’s Kingdom in how we can approach the One True God JEHOVAH. Brother Rando is not the first to come up with this time frame. In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

According to the discussion, 1914 represents the year that the earth would enter into a time of distress and that time limit could very well be 120 years. Which again, brings up the year 2034. The year 1914 is derived by a prophecy of the end of the Gentile times. Brother Rando insists that we should not live by a date, but to use this time to get right with God. Jesus continually pointed that the people who were on the earth when he would raise God’s Temple would be like those people in Noah’s time, taking no note. Where do the 120 years come from? If we read Genesis 6:3, most people think of this scripture in the fleshy sense of man’s lifespan. But could there be a spiritual meaning, giving those with Insight a divine warning? The Bible does say, “make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end.” (Daniel 12:4) Could it be, this world has entered into it’s Last Days in 1914? (1 Timothy 3:1-5) Yet there is another scripture that helps us measure the time. In Ecclesiastes 6:6 it reads, “Even supposing that he has lived a thousand years twice over and yet he has not seen what is good, is it not to just one place that everyone is going?” The chapter talks about vanity and that if a person actually lived two thousand years without God’s Kingdom we are all heading to the same place. Since death was the punishment, we would need God’s Kingdom to conquer death, the place we all are heading. A thousand years twice over is two thousand years. Simple math again brings us to the time of 2034, when the second thousand years has been brought to it’s finish. Could Christ Millennial reign be from 2034 to 3034? We don’t know. Jesus stated, he would raise God’s Temple in the third day, so we can expect God's Kingdom to be fully operating sometime between the years 2034 and 3034. However, Jesus Christ was risen first thing on the very morning in the third day. Most Bible readers are in agreement that Christ does rule for a thousand years.

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