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hai DW



Welcome back again


I want to ask you why in the NWT they rendered (1 Corinthians 10:4) "rock-mass" instead of a "Rock"?

KJV--
"spiritual Rock"


NIV--
"spiritual rock"


RS--
"supernatural Rock"


ESV--
"spiritual Rock"


We know that it says then that, "and that ROCK was Christ" So JESUS as the ROCK, that would only mean ONE THING! that HE IS JEHOVAH! for JEHOVAH in the OT is always said to be a/the ROCK right?


NWT
(Psalms 95:1)
O come let us cry out joyfully to Jehovah!
Let us shout in triumph to our Rock of salvation.


(Isaiah 26:4)
Trust in Jehovah, YOU people, for all times, for in Jah Jehovah is the Rock of times indefinite.


(2 Samuel 22:47)
Jehovah is living; and blessed be my Rock;
And let the God of the rock of my salvation be exalted.



And I think, when speaking of that ANGEL that was sent forth by JEHOVAH to keep the ISRAELITE on the road out in the wilderness just to support the issue that JESUS was that ANGEL is IRRELEVANT because the quarreling between MOSES and of his PEOPLE(begging for water) was PRIOR to that JEHOVAH's SENDING an ANGEL at (Exodus 23:20)



What do you think?




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Hello again mate

Thanks for writing

<<<<<<<<<<<<<I want to ask you why in the NWT they rendered (1 Corinthians 10:4) "rock-mass" instead of a "Rock"?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Greek word used there is petra it means "rock mass" or "a mass of connected rock" that's why we render it that way.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<We know that it says then that, "and that ROCK was Christ" So JESUS as the ROCK, that would only mean ONE THING! that HE IS JEHOVAH! for JEHOVAH in the OT is always said to be a/the ROCK right?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No if anything it would tell us that Jesus is the angel that led the Israelite's through the Red sea

Ex 14:

15 "Jehovah now said to Moses: “Why do you keep crying out to me? Speak to the sons of Israel that they should break camp. 16 As for you, lift up your rod and stretch your hand out over the sea and split it apart, that the sons of Israel may go through the midst of the sea on dry land. ..................... 19 Then the angel of the [true] God who was going ahead of the camp of Israel departed and went to their rear"

1 Cor 10 "Now I do not want YOU to be ignorant, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea 2 and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock-mass that followed them, and that rock-mass meant/was the Christ"

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<And I think, when speaking of that ANGEL that was sent forth by JEHOVAH to keep the ISRAELITE on the road out in the wilderness just to support the issue that JESUS was that ANGEL is IRRELEVANT because the quarreling between MOSES and of his PEOPLE(begging for water) was PRIOR to that JEHOVAH's SENDING an ANGEL at (Exodus 23:20)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Angel was there right from the beginning as we saw above he followed them into the red sea.

Now answer me this.

After seeing the two scriptures I just provided (read them carefully in your own Bible) Then come back and tell me if:

You still think the rock that followed them was Jehovah?

Come back and tell me and try and give me some reasons.

Speak soon

Take care  

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