Jehovah`s Witness/UN (banning religion)

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QUESTION: hai sir ben,



can you please show me(wholly) where in the bible that teaches that the U.N. will ban religion? and what scripture that tells(after the banning) that we can never find any churches that could perfectly teach God's words?


Im looking forward
Dave

ANSWER: The first question is does religion need banning,youre in Dipolog in the Philippines what have you seen in todays news that would suggest religion needs to be removed.

Religious worship of God should bring peace would you agree,it should make the believer in that religion a better person. But not all religions teach peace yet its claimed to represent God.If everyone was a Baptist would that bring peace,if everyone was a JW would that bring peace.


How many Baptist were killed in the two world wars by other Baptist,or how many died who professed to be a Christian and was killed by another professed Christian in another country.

How many Jehovah's Witnesses were killed by another witness in another country in the two world wars.

The difference is the teachings,the Churches in America supported killing in both World War I and II

It was now new ,Christianity was used by a government to support a military action was in 310 when Constantine the Great claimed he had a vision from Jesus Christ who told him to emblazon the first two Greek letters of Christ on their shields.

The Church has been duped repeatedly into blessing most government campaigns. The Crusades were a veiled attempt to maintain and expand the power and wealth of the Roman government and the Church and thousands of Muslims were killed under the banner of Christianity. The attempted genocide of the Native American peoples was done in the name of Manifest Destiny wherein the Church preached it was the Europeandescendant's destiny to claim.

The Civil War was supported by the Church, with the North primarily supporting abolitionist efforts and most churches in the South supporting continued slavery.


Antisemitism was justified by the Church in Germany prior to and during World War II, and initially the Church in the U.S. supported the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam War, and Desert Storm.


How is it justifed,Simple ,even a cursory look at scripture, particularly in the Old Testament, shows we've been justifying holy wars from the earliest times. Many are the battles of the conquest of Palestine that the writers claim God ordained in Exodus through Joshua.


Were these battles the same as those today,the Church will say yes, But is this what God is all about,Does God advocate the wholesale slaughter of others,this is what you would have to believe to join the military.

Throughout the Bible we read of God's grace and love. We read of a God who walks in the garden with creation and calls for Adam and Eve even when they're hiding.

Prophet after prophet declares God is a merciful ,Jesus who they claim  to follow in his footsteps said:

(Matthew 5:21-22# . . .YOU heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You must not murder; but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’ 22 However, I say to YOU that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice;. . .


Jesus was thinking of these passages:

#Genesis 9:6# 6 Anyone shedding man’s blood, by man will his own blood be shed. . .

#Exodus 20:13# . . .You must not murder. . .

#Deuteronomy 5:17) . . .You must not murder.



This doesn't sound like a man who would support a military strike against anyone,the the wars God supported were different.The reality is you can "prove" or justify just about anything from any of the world's religions' holy books including the Bible as Church people have done and we have done so from the beginning. However, every holy book contains a version of the Golden Rule.

killing one another is wrongperiod. There may be times when the act can be justified, but justification does not make a wrong into a right, it simply absolves the wrongdoer from guilt.

In Israel if a man broke in and was killed you were not blood guilty.


So again if everyone was a JW would we have a better world ,the answer is yes,and that is what will one day happen but first these other religions must be banned.


So this evidently has been Jehovah's plan thousands of years ago,the United Nations didn't even exist.

There is not a scripture that says "The United Nations Will Destroy Religions" we are saying its embedded in scripture.



We say Bible takes note historically and prophetically on how Gods people have been under world domination:



1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylonia, (4) Medo-Persia, (5) Greece or Macedonia, (6) Rome

The Prophet John in vision said:



(Revelation 17:9-10) . . .“Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. 10 And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived,. . .


So five who were over his people he says are gone:
Egypt,
Assyria,  
Babylonia
Medo-Persia
Greece or Macedonia


Then he says:
(Revelation 17:10) . . ., one is, . . .

(John 19:15) . . .The chief priests answered: “We have no king but Caesar.”

So its clear from scripture the 6th king is Rome at the time of his writing ,thats why he said

one is.



Then the prophet says:


(Revelation 17:10) . . .the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.


We believe this is Britain-America here referred to as the 7th King


(Revelation 13:11) . . .And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon


.. . .

Two horns like a lamb, suggestive of a pretense of inoffensiveness which the US claims to be a Christian nation but its words are of death "but it began speaking as a dragon"


So the 7th is Britain-America is there any doupt the United States is a world power.




Now the Prophet says:


(Revelation 17:11) . . .And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, . . .


He says there will be a wild beast that was but is not ,this eighth king, the inspired prophecy said:


(Revelation 17:8) . . .was, but is not, and yet is . . .



Only Jehovahs Witnesses came to understand this prophecy,how can a world power go,then come back coming from the United States,the Churches have no clue because they dont have Gods spirit.


If the 8th King is the United Nations like only we say then how did it go or leave power,simple,it was called by another name at first:



*** w88 6/1 p. 27 The Long March of the World Powers Nears Its End ***

Jehovah’s Witnesses realized that the then dormant peace and security organization would ascend out of its abyss of inactivity. That year the president of the Watch Tower Society told an audience in 52 cities: “Though forty members still profess to adhere to the League, the League is in effect in a state of suspended animation . . . It ‘is not.’” But would it “ascend out of the abyss”? Basing his words on this Bible prophecy, he declared: “The association of worldly nations will rise again.”



As the prophecy had stated, this eighth king “was” from 1920 until 1939. It ‘was not’ from 1939 until World War II ended in 1945. Then it ascended “out of the abyss,” reactivated as the League’s successor, the United Nations.


So it was called League of Nations hailed to bring peace and world war started anyway.


So the Prophet saw all of this the wild beast that was but is not ,this is the eighth king the United Nations.

The Eighth World Power, must be a symbol of the dead League of Nations and its living successor the United Nations.



So we see from scripture who will destroy religion because of the rider on its back,John the Prophet says:

(Revelation 17:3) . . .And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns.


Revelation 17:11) . . .And the wild beast that was but is not, it is



So this woman is on the back of the United Nations ,who does this woman represent is the question now.



The Prophet give us a picture of this woman that aftewards we will know exactly who she represent.


First what is she wearing:


(Revelation 17:4) . . .And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet. . .

Scarlet is the colour of the beast and the clothing of the woman riding it symbolises the corruption of true religion ,the purple is associated with royalty and status:


Acts 16:14

Now a certain woman named Lydia heard us. She was a seller of purple from the city of Thyatira, who worshiped God.


(Esther 8:15) 15 As for Mor´de·cai, he went forth from before the king in royal apparel ........reddish purple.. . .

(Daniel 5:29) . . .At that time Bel·shaz´zar commanded, and they clothed Daniel with purple. . .

(Luke 16:19) . . .But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple . . .



So this woman has status and influence and is rich but at the same time she has Scarlet the colour of the beast so she is a corrupted woman,she wear the color they put on Jesus in mocking him:


(Matthew 27:28) . . .And disrobing him, they draped him with a scarlet cloak. . .

(John 19:2) . . .And the soldiers braided a crown of thorns and put it on his head and arrayed him with a purple outer garment;. . .


John says she has something in her hand:



(Revelation 17:4) . . .and had in her hand a golden cup . . .

Her name is Babylon the Great so she should have a golden cup






.. . .

Two horns like a lamb, suggestive of a pretense of inoffensiveness which the US claims to be a Christian nation but its words are of death "but it began speaking as a dragon"


So the 7th is Britain-America is there any doupt the United States is a world power.




Now the Prophet says:


(Revelation 17:11) . . .And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, . . .


He says there will be a wild beast that was but is not ,this eighth king, the inspired prophecy said:


(Revelation 17:8) . . .was, but is not, and yet is . . .



Only Jehovahs Witnesses came to understand this prophecy,how can a world power go,then come back coming from the United States,the Churches have no clue because they dont have Gods spirit.


If the 8th King is the United Nations like only we say then how did it go or leave power,simple,it was called by another name at first:



*** w88 6/1 p. 27 The Long March of the World Powers Nears Its End ***

Jehovah’s Witnesses realized that the then dormant peace and security organization would ascend out of its abyss of inactivity. That year the president of the Watch Tower Society told an audience in 52 cities: “Though forty members still profess to adhere to the League, the League is in effect in a state of suspended animation . . . It ‘is not.’” But would it “ascend out of the abyss”? Basing his words on this Bible prophecy, he declared: “The association of worldly nations will rise again.”



As the prophecy had stated, this eighth king “was” from 1920 until 1939. It ‘was not’ from 1939 until World War II ended in 1945. Then it ascended “out of the abyss,” reactivated as the League’s successor, the United Nations.


So it was called League of Nations hailed to bring peace and world war started anyway.


So the Prophet saw all of this the wild beast that was but is not ,this is the eighth king the United Nations.

The Eighth World Power, must be a symbol of the dead League of Nations and its living successor the United Nations.



So we see from scripture who will destroy religion because of the rider on its back,John the Prophet says:

(Revelation 17:3) . . .And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns.


Revelation 17:11) . . .And the wild beast that was but is not, it is



So this woman is on the back of the United Nations ,who does this woman represent is the question now.



The Prophet give us a picture of this woman that aftewards we will know exactly who she represent.


First what is she wearing:


(Revelation 17:4) . . .And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet. . .

Scarlet is the colour of the beast and the clothing of the woman riding it symbolises the corruption of true religion ,the purple is associated with royalty and status:


Acts 16:14

Now a certain woman named Lydia heard us. She was a seller of purple from the city of Thyatira, who worshiped God.


(Esther 8:15) 15 As for Mor´de·cai, he went forth from before the king in royal apparel ........reddish purple.. . .

(Daniel 5:29) . . .At that time Bel·shaz´zar commanded, and they clothed Daniel with purple. . .

(Luke 16:19) . . .But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple . . .



So this woman has status and influence and is rich but at the same time she has Scarlet the colour of the beast so she is a corrupted woman,she wear the color they put on Jesus in mocking him:


(Matthew 27:28) . . .And disrobing him, they draped him with a scarlet cloak. . .

(John 19:2) . . .And the soldiers braided a crown of thorns and put it on his head and arrayed him with a purple outer garment;. . .


John says she has something in her hand:



(Revelation 17:4) . . .and had in her hand a golden cup . . .

Her name is Babylon the Great so she should have a golden cup



(Jeremiah 51:7) . . .Babylon has been a golden cup in the hand of Jehovah, she making all the earth drunk. From her wine the nations have drunk.. . .



In the gold cup he said:

(Revelation 17:4) . . .that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication.



So she is a whore:


(Revelation 17:5) . . .And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.. . .

(Jeremiah 3:3) . . .And the forehead of a wife committing prostitution is what has become yours.. . .

Ancient Babylon long represented that which was unholy and in opposition to God who she represents.


John says she was drunk from drinking human blood:


(Revelation 17:6) . . .And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood . . .



So we are told what will happnen to her:


(Revelation 17:7) . . .And so the angel said to me: “Why is it you wondered? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast that is carrying her . . .

(Revelation 17:16) . . .wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.



So far we learned who the 8th King is and what this 8th king the UN will do to this woman,so how is she a represent of religion.



God says she a whore who is supposed to be his wife his bride:

(James 4:4) . . .Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.

So she is a spiritual whore in that she is a friend of the world ,she proved that by supporting war as I showed,she support human leaders over God and has voting booths right in the church.


Not only is she a filthy whore but John says :

(Revelation 18:9) . . .lived in shameless luxury . . .



Some of these preachers have multi million dollar homes

Joyce Meyer talks about wealth — her ministry brings in $100 million annually TV, the radio, in books and online on the backs of the working poor.


Joel Osteen

17,000-square-foot stone mansion in the Tall Timbers subdivision in River Oaks. The Osteens' new home is situated on 1.86 acres and surrounded by an ornamental fence. The 411: It has six bedrooms, six bathrooms, three elevators and five wood-burning fireplaces, with a one-bedroom guest house and pool house. The Harris County Appraisal District valued it at $10.5 million.


Kenneth Copeland's "18-thousand square foot home valued at $6.3 million" and his "private jets" are just some of the reasons that Kenneth Copeland Ministries (KCM) was included in Senator Grassley’s investigation.


Creflo Dollar:
Mr. Dollar, whose Rolls-Royces, private jets, million-dollar Atlanta home and $2.5 million Manhattan apartment, furnish proof to his followers of the validity of his teachings, is a leading apostle of what is known as the "prosperity gospel


Benny Hinn

His total take upwards of $97.93 million,Personal perks for Hinn, family and his entourage include a $10 million seaside mansion  private jet with annual operating costs of about $1.5 million; a Mercedes SUV and convertible, each valued at about $80,000




The list goes on and on as they fleece the flock and feed them spiritual junk food.




L. Ron Hubbard (Founder of Scientology) once said


"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion."  




Revelation 18:9) . . .lived in shameless luxury . . .


After the UN destroy her John says strong angel reveal who she represents:


(Revelation 18:21) . . .And a strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying. . .

(Revelation 18:22-23) . . .And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again, and no craftsman of any trade will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again, 23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; . . .



Prophet Grünbaum













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QUESTION: Thank you sir


That really really really make sense!!! wow!


Anyway, what does it mean--(Revelations 18:22) . . and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;


sound of a MILLSTONE? what is that mean? what's the contribution of that THING to BABYLON THE GREAT?



And also, this one could you explain this to me?

(Revelations 13:3) 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.



Why it's WOUNDED to DEATH? and was HEALED? what symbolizes that one?
And why then all the WORLD WONDERED AFTER THE BEAST? what does it mean?



And lastly, who is this "ANOTHER ANGEL" at (Rev 18:1)? was he the same angel who's called as the "STRONG/MIGHTY ANGEL" the one holding an OPENED little BOOK at (Rev 10:1) ?  what's that BOOK anyway?
I know you can answer all these.



Thank you again sir
Dave

Answer
. the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore

Just shows that in the Churches world wide will not have anymore activity,in the same context he says the sound of singers ,trumpeters ,craftsman of any trade or voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard.

So what he helping the reader to appreciate is no sounds will come again from the churches world wide,sounds that were heard from churches will be silent,no more music or voices of weddings ,then he says:

(Revelation 18:23) . . .for by your spiritistic practice all the nations were misled. . .

So the churches mislead millions with false teachings and this is the reasons who it wilo be silent.

(Galatians 5:19-20) . . .Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20 idolatry, practice of spiritism,. . .



The rest of your questions I suggest you talk a bible study there in the Philippines  

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