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Hello again Bro Rando


I just need your thoughts on this....

When I read the book of Revelation, I came across the question about this ANGEL right here:

Revelation 10:1-3

1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.



It seems like it's pointing to JESUS(?) because, as I compared it to another passages, I can see something very significant in relevant to the subject:

Revelation 1:7

7 Look! He is coming with the clouds,

Matthew 17:2

2. .and his face shone as the sun, . .


Rev 1:15

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace;

Rev 5:5

5 behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
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And also Revelation 18:1

1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.


When I compared it to Revelation 12:10, and Rev 1:16 and also Matthew 17:2, I'm convinced it's pointing to JESUS!



Any corrections? Can I have your thoughts on this? And would you mind giving me also the other passages in the BIBLE where it points to JESUS being an ANGEL ?


Thank You and I would look forward to that

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Yes, you are gaining "Spiritual Insight".  This comes with a warning.  In order to keep "Spiritual Insight", one has to keep reaching and struggle to stay on the road leading to Life.  If we turn to the left or to the right, we can lose this fantastic gift.  Think about extending your Ministry in some way.  Be obedient, be submissive, and Jehovah will bestow onto you these fine Spiritual Blessings!  

There are many scripture pointing to Jesus being an angel.  Here's a few scripture I can share with you, there are many more:

"Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God walking in the garden" (Gen 3:8)  
"By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet, " (Rev 1:10)
"And I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me," (Rev 1:12)
"I became dead, but, look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Ha′des. " (Rev 1:18)

"These are the things that the Son of God says, he who has his eyes like a fiery flame, and his feet are like fine copper," (Rev 2:18)

This angel goes on and states, "I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast what you have, that no one may take your crown.
The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine." (Rev 2:11-12)

But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.” (Rev 5:5)

"They have over them a king , the angel of the abyss. In Hebrew his name is A·bad′don, but in Greek he has the name A·pol′lyon." (Rev 9:11)

"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.  And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years .  And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." (Rev 20:1-3)

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/Jesus-Abaddon-Destroyer.htm

"I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star ." (Rev 22:16)  Really, the entire Bible is full of texts proofs of Jesus being an angel.

For the Serious Bible Student:  Scripture upon scripture upon scripture!  

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2011/5/Christ-Angel-Jehovah-Pa

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2011/6/Christ-Angel-Jehovah-Pa

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2011/6/christ-angel-jehovah-pa

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2008/12/archangel.htm

In closing let's view (Rev 18:1) "And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory ."

Yes, you're correct.  "I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do.  So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." (John 17:5-6)

Read (Proverbs 8:22-31) to learn about Jesus as "the beginning of creation".

Take Care,
Brother Rando

Ps..My gift to you... "For the one finding me will certainly find life, and gets goodwill from Jehovah.  But the one missing me is doing violence to his soul; all those intensely hating me are the ones that do love death.” (Proverbs 8:35-36)

"True wisdom has built its house; it has hewn out its seven pillars."   (Proverbs 9:1)  This scripture is now unfolding for the "pure of heart"!  Society's explanation :  Scriptural Questions Answered:

Rev 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6—What is indicated by the expression “the seven spirits”? The number seven signifies completeness from God’s standpoint. Thus, the message to “the seven congregations” ultimately applies to all of God’s people gathered together in more than 100,000 congregations earth wide. (Rev. 1:11, 20) Since holy spirit is given according to what its operation needs to accomplish, the expression “the seven spirits” denotes the fullness of its operation in giving {understanding and bringing blessings to those who pay attention to the prophecy}. The book of Revelation seems to progress on the basis of a series of sevens. The number seven here represents completeness, and indeed, the book deals with bringing “to a finish,” or completion, “the sacred secret of God.”—Rev. 10:7.

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In reference to Rev 18:1 "And, look! the glory of the God of Israel was coming from the direction of the east, and his voice was like the voice of vast waters; and the earth itself shone because of his glory." (Ezekiel 43:2)  

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Brother Rando is a student of Prophecy and one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing with the Faithful and Discreet slave. His interests are directed towards how the time of the end would come about. The earth’s population today is going through a physical, spiritual and emotional tribulation that has been prophesied concerning a time of distress as it enters into a cleansing period of removing wickedness by means of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 12:1) Brother Rando’s discussions are of keen interest to many who await for God's Kingdom. He asserts that his discussions are just that, and not Prophecies, nor does he make the claim to be inspired. His authority is the Bible. He proclaims the year 2034 to be of very high interest to all. Like a GPS, that gives Insight to location, 2034 allows us to gauge where we are in the stream of time according to God’s Will. According to Brother Rando, the Bible carries two thoughts in it’s passages, one is fleshy and the other is spiritual. Jesus Christ warned Peter of thinking fleshy and that this type of thinking is not from God. (Matthew 16:23) In order to measure time, a method of measurement is needed. Measuring time by “the day” would mean a 24 hour period. However, measuring “the day” spiritually would mean a period of time yet to be revealed using other scripture to interpret the method needed. By looking into the Bible, we can actually determine what God meant by “the day” when looking into his Word on how his Will would come about. As we read (Genesis 2:16-17) the punishment for disobedience was death “in the day”. As time went on, the scriptures do begin to reveal the time frame of “the day”. According to Genesis 5:5, Adam lived 930 years and then he died. Satan who thinks like a man, got it wrong! (Genesis 3:4-5) Why Study the Bible

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In Brother Rando’s research of the Bible, he found scripture does interpret other scripture. The answer to how long a day was, according to God’s Will was found in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. This is vital to gaining understanding in how we are to measure time in God’s view. Spiritually and not fleshy or physical. A day in heavens time is a thousand years to us. It’s by this method we can measure time and where we are in the stream of time of the end. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) Was Jesus indicating that he was the Temple of God, God’s Kingdom? And that the temple would in fact be destroyed or broken down? According to God’s Word, the following scripture is the basis for Salvation. “For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9) In order for John 2:19 and Romans 10:9 to come in line, did Jesus utter a prophecy about God's Kingdom since he stated, “I will raise it up”? IF the basis for salvation is that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him up. We can conclude that Jesus did not raise himself up, but it was God that raised him from the dead since he was dead and conscious of nothing at all. (Ecc 9:5) Jesus prophesied that HE would raise God's Kingdom. (Rev 5:10) Jesus was speaking prophetically of raising the temple within the third day of a thousand years. Jesus warned Peter not to think the thoughts of man. (Matthew 16:23) Based on 2 Peter 3:8 we are able to determine the time frame to when God’s Kingdom would be raised up by Jesus Christ. Jesus was put to death on Nisan 14, 33CE. The two days would actually represent two thousand years and we come up with the year 2033. Jesus stated,“in three days I will raise it up.” So the third day is upon us in 2034.

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“I fully support, acknowledge and cooperate with *The Faithful Steward and Its' Governing Body* of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, is appointing over his belongings. This Slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the Mountain-like organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has been destroyed, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes. Even though Babylon the Great is spoken as a woman and she has fallen in (Rev. 14:8), the sacred secret is that she is not a woman at all, but the World of False Religion that will be utterly destroyed by the personal hand of Jesus Christ as (King Abaddon) in the coming Great Tribulation never to be found again! (Matthew 24:14)

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Secular Historians point to the Temple in Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. But was Jesus Christ speaking in a physical sense since that Temple is non-existent today? Jehovah Witnesses assert that Jesus under inspiration of Holy Spirit was actually prophesying about his spiritual body as the only means to approach his Heavenly Father. (John 14:6) Not the Temple made by hands or his fleshy body as Christendom claims, but his spiritual body, known as the Body of Christ. (1 Cor 12:27) This would actually be the Collective Representative of God’s Kingdom in how we can approach the One True God JEHOVAH. Brother Rando is not the first to come up with this time frame. In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

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According to the discussion, 1914 represents the year that the earth would enter into a time of distress and that time limit could very well be 120 years. Which again, brings up the year 2034. The year 1914 is derived by a prophecy of the end of the Gentile times. Brother Rando insists that we should not live by a date, but to use this time to get right with God. Jesus continually pointed that the people who were on the earth when he would raise God’s Temple would be like those people in Noah’s time, taking no note. Where do the 120 years come from? If we read Genesis 6:3, most people think of this scripture in the fleshy sense of man’s lifespan. But could there be a spiritual meaning, giving those with Insight a divine warning? The Bible does say, “make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end.” (Daniel 12:4) Could it be, this world has entered into it’s Last Days in 1914? (1 Timothy 3:1-5) Yet there is another scripture that helps us measure the time. In Ecclesiastes 6:6 it reads, “Even supposing that he has lived a thousand years twice over and yet he has not seen what is good, is it not to just one place that everyone is going?” The chapter talks about vanity and that if a person actually lived two thousand years without God’s Kingdom we are all heading to the same place. Since death was the punishment, we would need God’s Kingdom to conquer death, the place we all are heading. A thousand years twice over is two thousand years. Simple math again brings us to the time of 2034, when the second thousand years has been brought to it’s finish. Could Christ Millennial reign be from 2034 to 3034? We don’t know. Jesus stated, he would raise God’s Temple in the third day, so we can expect God's Kingdom to be fully operating sometime between the years 2034 and 3034. However, Jesus Christ was risen first thing on the very morning in the third day. Most Bible readers are in agreement that Christ does rule for a thousand years.

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