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Jehovah`s Witness/Your Warning to Dee - Let Truth Be Told


Hello Eddie G. I have for some days been reading the posts about Dee. In all that I have seen, it still seems the Truth has not been told about what the problem really is, and why Dee had to go to others for explanation.

The Truth of the matter is, she had nowhere else to go. From what I can gather from her posts and contact with her, it seems she felt as if no matter how things were brought to the Witnesses, all she would get is; "This is our belief" "We are Jehovahs visible organization", " The information is from the FDS, the spirit led class to feed us meat in due season", "You're subjecting yourself to apostate teachings and of demons" and then get a continued explanation from a formula of scriptures that actually in context and application, contradict what is being taught.

It also appears that in her initial contacting of other Witnesses on this site to ask questions, she experienced harshness or rejection. This may have been caused by the way the questions were asked etc., but also in reading back, the unwillingness of some to respond to the issues, preferring to ignore the underlying reason for asking the question, such as Truth.

Now before I go on, I will say that I do not fully agree with the way Dee went about things. That is why when I was contacted by Dee, in some instances I defended the JWS, continually told her to write to the WTBS now the #FDS#, encouraged her to be prayerful and most of all, under no circumstances voice her feelings within the congregation as to not cause division.

Allow me to ask you a question:

If you are taught that to make the color brown, you need the  colors red, blue and gold. You do some research and find that the actual colors needed are red, blue and yellow. You then take it to the teacher, inform him/her that the formula is wrong and that it is yellow not gold that gives the outcome of brown, but the Teacher rejects this and seemingly persecutes and isolate you because of your disagreeing. What do you do?

If the teacher then insist that you teach to others that the formula is red, blue and gold claiming that what you have shown is incorrect, although you know it to be correct, what then do you do?

This seemingly is the position that Dee feels she is in, although still willing to be a Jehovahs Witness. I will make no assumptions of agenda, however I do understand how one could feel there is an underlying agenda to her posts.

I also would like you to give consideration to the fact that actually, you, Dee and others#Witnesses# all maybe wrong. The reason I say this is because of the way things were handled.

Although I fully understand Dee and her position, I would have to agree that she should not have expressed some of the things she did in public forum for it does come across in a negative manner. However, Dee as pertains to becoming a JW, is a "babe" and as such is prone to making many mistakes.

It should also be noted that her questions did not start out with alot of expression, but rather legitimate questioning on certain doctrines based on her understanding.

The Bible clearly states at Galatians 6:

NWT: "Brothers, even though a man takes some false step before he is aware of it, ​YOU​ who have spiritual qualifications try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness, as you each keep an eye on yourself, for fear you also may be tempted"

As I do not wish to play the part as judge, in reveiw of all, the responses by Mr. Hepburn who is a Witness as you, was of a more proper manner, for it considered what could be seen as incorrect, did not waiver from what is believed and was of a 'Christian Apologetic" nature by explaining what why things are believed. Because of this, I was shocked when he was somewhat attacked for handling things the way he did.

On the other hand, your warnings and use of the words "opposers", "apostates",  along with what has been seen as "harsh" "critical" responses, are more of a "Christian Polemic" nature an risk causing more division than the things expressed by Dee.

Now if Dee happens to read this, I have only one message. Examine yourself, be prayerful, continue in study, ask questions to gain understanding, however leave out expressions that could cause others to fall. If you are going to stay with the Witnesses, address your concerns#disagreements# of things that appear incorrect to your Elders and to the WTBS#FDS#. Wait for humble spirit before baptism. It is ok to disagree, but be careful in the way it is expressed.

You are at a crucial point where flesh can play no part; you are at the point of Baptism into the Body of Christ#Let them who have an ear to hear, hear#

There are other things I will address in separate correspondence. If Dee has an agenda or is 'True", like Sister T said..."we will see".

Based on my conversations with her, she appears sincere and chooses to take a "Beroean" approach to things:

NWT Acts 17:10-11

Immediately by night the brothers sent both Paul and Silas out to Be‧roe′a, and these, upon arriving, went into the synagogue of the Jews.11Now the latter were more noble‐minded than those in Thes‧sa‧lo‧ni′ca, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.

Have a good day Brother Eddie G, look forward to discussing scriptures with you soon.

REV. Darryl Murphy

Hi Darryl,

I understand where you're coming from but I've already said what I needed to say (about Ms. Dee), so there's no need to recap. However I do have this to say, unlike Christendom, Jehovah's Witnesses as a group IS the ONLY religious Organization in the world that is UNITED in the Worship of the only true God Jehovah! No one can claim to it except us.

As such, we take our unity very seriously, be it doctrinally, congregationally, educationally or organizationally. In fact our unity is well known throughout the world that we often get criticized by others, by people who don't agree with us. They call us with many names like "the brainwashed sect". Many just misunderstand us and sadly, these misunderstandings or blatant lies against us are done not from God's stand point but man's.

They (opposers/haters) don't view at it the WAY the apostles, the disciples of Christ and the first century Christians viewed it. They don't look at it like we do, in FULL agreement with  the apostle Paul when he said:

“Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.” (1 Corinthians 1:10)

Since we are "united in the same mind and in the same line of thought", thus as a worldwide religious organization we're the ONLY ones who can truly and truthfully say, we have:

“one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.” (Ephesians 4:5, 6)

Thus anyone wanting to join us must "speak in agreement" with those leading us to God and Christ otherwise as the apostle Paul said:

“. . .The Christ exists divided. . .” (1 Corinthians 1:13)


“. . .the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.” (2 Peter 2:2)

By speaking in agreement, one can receive true blessings from God and ENJOY each others company!!!

Like the Psalmist said:

“Look! How good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity!”—Ps. 133:1.

Sadly this joy from God the world will never experience nor will ever understand.

In fact the world hates it. Don't even want it. Our being of ONE mind with the Christ is oftentimes (if not all the time) used against us. We get accused of being like "mind-numb robots", blindly following whatever is told us.

We often hear lies and accusations (from haters and opposers and most of all apostates) saying "we blindly follow the WTBTS, the FDS class, the Organization, etc".

We get accused as a brainless sects, uneducated, having no thinking ability to sort things out. Some try to tell us to "think independently outside the WTBTS" as if we haven't considered the things we've read and learned.

Instead highlighting the unity within the organization, opposers merely see it as  "BRAINWASHING".

But the fact is our UNITY is the result of applying what we LEARNED from the scriptures. IT is BASED ON OUR COMPLETE OBEDIENCE TO COMMANDS OF our Loving God Jehovah! It's our complete adherence to words of the master of our faith, our lord Jesus Christ. This is what really you've been seeing and witnessing - OUR UNITY!

A unity that's practically and pathetically lacking in Christendom. It's nonexistent! Why they can't even agree to follow  a simple command given by the master himself.

Case in point:

None of these so called "professed Christians" (even today) is willing to abide by the rule stated by Jesus:

“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”—JOHN 13:35.

“This is my commandment, that YOU love one another just as I have loved YOU.” (John 15:12)

““These things I command YOU, that YOU love one another.” (John 15:17)

NO, NOT one (in Christendom) as an Organization can rightfully say as the apostle Paul said:

“. . .Hence I call YOU to witness this very day that I am clean from the blood of all men, . . .” (Acts 20:26, 27)

How could they since they themselves are the ones who shed the blood of the many, how can they claim:

“No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his soul in behalf of his friends.” (John 15:13), if they themselves approve of, even PARTICIPATED in the bloody wars and atrocities committed in the name of God and country? IMPOSSIBLE!

In fact the records of Christendom as well as the entire false religious system of things is one full of lies and bloodshed. History is full of it and they can't hid it.

God himself said:

“. . .For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6. . .” (Revelation 18:5, 6)

So "..., if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.” “Get out of her, my people”... (Revelation 18:4)

As for asking questions or giving opinions, of course there's nothing wrong with it. That's normal and part of the learning process. In fact it's to be expected. Otherwise like you said - one will remain a "babe" unable to partake of "solid food". But if the intention of the questioner is to cause havoc and division among brothers, then I'm sure you'll agree with me  - anyone hearing it will have a problem with it. Therefore it must not be allowed (to pester) in order to preserve the peace and unity of the Congregation.

The command is clear!

“Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.” (1 Corinthians 1:10)

“one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.” (Ephesians 4:5, 6)

There's no such thing as "different roads leading to God". A lie promoted by the father of Lie - Satan,

But like what Jesus said, we MUST:

““Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.” (Matthew 7:13, 14)

One "narrow" road leading to life and one "spacious" road leading to destruction.

In short, it's either you're in the True Religion or in the False Religion.

No such thing as the middle ground.

Simple and crystal clear to understand.

As for this:

>>"On the other hand, your warnings and use of the words "opposers", "apostates",  along with what has been seen as "harsh" "critical" responses, are more of a "Christian Polemic" nature an risk causing more division than the things expressed by Dee."<<

If these are "harsh" "critical" words (opposers, apostates), I wonder what would you say to Jesus when he said the following to those who opposed and hated him:

““Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because YOU shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for YOU yourselves do not go in, neither do YOU permit those on their way in to go in.” (Matthew 23:13)

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you traverse sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one you make him a subject for Gehenna twice as much so as yourselves. Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are you to flee from the judgment of Gehenna?”—Matthew 23:15, 33."?

Would you tell Jesus that these are "harsh, critical" words to say?

I hope not.

Now what's harsh and critical about stating the truth, especially when life is at stake?

The Sadducee and pharisees opposed Jesus at every opportunity they had. Not only they hated him but they also prevented the rest from gaining life.

Question is what would you've done if you we're in Jesus' situation?

Would you not tell them the truth even though it seems too harsh and critical?

I hope you will, if not the words of Jesus will come ringing!

“He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.” (Luke 11:23)

That's all I have to say on this.  

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