Jehovah`s Witness/Regarding Ms. Rita, etc....
Hi Bro Eddie G,
Sister T here, I'm very glad that you decided to comment on the posts regarding Ms. Rita.
And I also believe it's just fine to chime in and set things straight when people who are not JW's on a forum for questions to JW's give biased views based on their own thoughts and feelings.
Being raised in a JW household or having parent(s) who are JW's doesn't mean you are one or have been one, it doesn't mean you can speak for any who truly are. All you can do is go by what you have experienced or how you feel about things. And everyone does not have the same feelings.
Some children that grow up in JW households may feel they are missing out on something. And then others may cultivate love of Jehovah and understand WHY we don't celebrate certain holidays and do not want to do anything that would displease the God that they love from their hearts. So it's all about a person's heart, which only God can really know. We can plant and water all day long, but if God doesn't make it grow, it's out of our control. (1 Cor. 3:6)
Many opposers will try to make it seem like we are wrong because we want to serve Jehovah according to His Will and not our own. (Prov 3:5,6; Jer 10:23) And many do not take the time to try to understand our deep love for God, or why we are willing to serve Him regardless of what others may think, we know that obedience to Jehovah God and keeping his commandments means life and is very important, it's also very rewarding and makes life enjoyable and happy beyond any human reasoning! There's just no words to the joy that comes from having a close relationship with Jehovah God, being his friend and his son's friend, nothing compares, period.
Jesus says at John 15:14 "YOU are my friends if YOU do what I am commanding YOU."
Jesus said at John 14:21 "He that has my commandments and observes them, that one is he who loves me. In turn he that loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will plainly show myself to him."
1 John 5:3 "For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome"
James 4:8 "Draw close to God, and he will draw close to YOU..."
Now Ms. Rita wrote to me a while ago too and I tried to help her see that she really can't make anyone do what she wants them to do, but she lead me to believe that the wife had some mental illnesses that needed to be addressed and I explained that if she wanted to help then she should speak to her family member and the wife first about her mental illness and maybe getting some help for that, but now what I read, I didn't see her mention about a mental illness, just how horrible and brainwashed JW's are supposed to be.
And like you questioned, Bro Eddie, is there a hidden agenda here? I tend to ask that question myself, because how do you go from 'wanting to help' to condemning, gossiping, and putting down your family member to that extent, and then go a step beyond and group all JW's together as a cult and feeling sorry for us all? That doesn't add up and it seems to boil down to her not wanting her family member to be a Jehovah's Witness.
That is like you said, being a busy body and really not her place.
Family is important to us, we love people regardless if they are JW's or not, our main focus is to help others who are not JW's learn about God because we care and love them.
We go out and tell others about God's Kingdom as Jesus did and as he had his followers do, by two's, (Luke 10:1) because of love for people who are NOT JW's. (Matt 24:14)
This is not a phase, this is serious and lives are at stake, but because someone is too busy worrying about what they deem as wrong, instead of accepting that their family member is trying to live by what the Bible says, will get them no where except for stressing themselves out, which is not good. No one is forced to become a JW. You can't just join.
Just like children whose parents are JW's do not have to become ones themselves if they don't want to once they are at an age of making their own decisions.
So maybe Ms. Rita needs to change her approach to what they have decided upon because it seems that them not wanting to be around her and her family could be because of the disdain and dislike of what they believe in. (Prov. 18:24).
Think about it, if you were her nephew, does this sound like a person who truly loves you and cares about you and how you feel!
Ms Rita's quote: "Yes, my nephew converted. He is a sweet man but has never made good choices or wise decisions. His intelligence level falls short, and he has always been weak and gullible. The woman he married was older and I think recognized this in him. I read Jw men are suppose to be the head of the family, but in their case, she is. He does whatever she says. Always has. No wonder many view jw's as a cult. They do many things that resemble one. I feel sorry for all of them."
With those words it's really hard to see where the love you have for him is at!
Also, it shows something else, that Ms. Rita views us as cult, why? because we believe what the Bible says that men are to take the lead in heading their families? As she said, "I read JW men are supposed to be the head of the family" That's what the Bible says, the man is the head of the woman. (1 Cor. 11:3).
But then she says he doesn't take the lead, and expressed that he's always made bad decisions, etc, if that's his problem among others she mentioned, it seems to be that he's had these problems way before becoming a JW! So she is actually chalking up his personal problems he ALREADY had and trying to say it's all because he is now a JW.
To make that false accusation and label us as a cult because he listens to his wife instead of taking the lead, means he's NOT following what the Bible says, as JW's should. So how does those things about him personally have anything to do with being a JW in general or with JW's being a cult? IT DOESN'T! That is something he as an individual has to work on with himself, if that's the case.
Now do you see what can happen when people are biased against us? Do you see how opposers side with these ones and don't even have the correct understandings? Do you see how dangerous it is to listen to ones who ARE NOT Jehovah's Witnesses?...case in point!
Some people don't think before they speak out in anger and show themselves for what is really in their heart, and then opposers use that to ride it on home in order to get their biased incorrect views out. Listening to an opposer to validate your anger is not going to change anything, and it also doesn't make what is said against JW's valid or true.
In order to keep down conflicts and arguments, have you Ms. Rita, ever thought that your actions may play a huge role? Obviously it was not that way at first, since you were close enough to them to loan them money, so something had to happen, and I think your comments about him and them, gives a very big clue as to what.
As I believe I mentioned in my reply to Ms. Rita before, I have people in my extended family who are not JW's, I have no problem with them because they respect my beliefs and do not try to make my children feel as if they are missing out on something.
In fact I just attended a Family Reunion not too long ago, they were not JW's.
Respect goes a long way, on both sides. The story is one sided, and we can't know the whole story just by what Ms. Rita says, so I won't put all the blame on her, and all the blame can't be put on them, because their side is unknown to us, especially when all we have to go by is what she says, and she has shown her dislike for JW's already. She may not agree with what they believe or how they choose to raise their children, just like they may not agree with what Ms. Rita believes and how she chooses to raise her children.
Her anger will only make them pull away more, I know I wouldn't want to deal anyone who felt like that about me, regardless if it was true or not...even if I was not a JW, I would not deal with someone talking down about me and my family in that manner.
Bro Eddie G, again, thanks for coming in and speaking up!
Keep doing that because when you have ones who are here to discredit and mislead, we need to speak up about it. So please do so whenever you feel the need!
Thanks Sister T for your comments. Much appreciated.
Hopefully, this post of yours will clear things up further and set matters into perspective.
Hopefully, there is no hidden agenda on Ms. Rita's part and hopefully, she takes my advice from the latest short post that I just posted.
Nothing good can come out from gossiping. Reminds me of this old Jewish tale (as told in the 7/15 WT11:
It goes something like this:
"A man went about town slandering the town’s wise man. Later, the malicious gossiper realized his wrong and went to the wise man to ask for forgiveness, offering to do whatever was necessary to make amends. The wise man had one request: The gossiper was told to go and take a feather pillow and cut it open, scattering the feathers to the wind. Though puzzled by the request, the gossiper did as he was instructed and then returned to the wise man.
“Am I now forgiven?” he asked.
“First, go and gather all the feathers,” the wise man responded.
“But how can I? The wind has already scattered them.”
“It is as difficult to repair the damage done by your words as it is to recover the feathers.”
The lesson is clear. Once spoken, words cannot be retrieved, and it may be impossible to undo the hurt they cause. Before spreading a bit of gossip, we are wise to remember that we are, in effect, about to scatter feathers in the wind."
Talk to you later Sister T