Jehovah`s Witness/Luke 2:27-34


:) wrote at 2013-08-19 14:46:54
Just his statements, I know you're right Brenton:

"There are 2 words involved in this text that directly relate to the discussion.  

The first word  used at Luke 2:27-34 is a noun  “παιδίον”  English = paidion   You can look this up in Strongs Greek Lexicon  word number 3813.  It says “3813. παιδιον paidion; neuter ; a childling (of either sex), i.e. (properly,) an infant, or (by extension) a half-grown boy or girl; figuratively, an immature Christian: —  (little, young) child, damsel.”

Notice what I have in Bold the word neuter .  This word is always neuter as it  can be used for either a male child or a female child.  "

Especially this one:

"So now we have 2 nouns that the  “αυτος” could be referring too.  One is neuter,  and the other is masculine. So the context is important.

The context has moved away from Jesus being a baby  (described by a neuter noun) to being a child described by a  masculine noun).    The word “autos” in context now is referring to the boy.

Now do we get upset at the KJV for using the grammatically wrong words (the child) when it translates “ “παις pais“ ?  No we don't because the context still gives the same meaning the words are not grammatical correct but the reader knows what is meant.  There is NO theological teaching in those verses"

Really the TRUTH can't be deride

More power

Bro.D.Drake wrote at 2013-08-19 23:00:08
Thank you for your explanation. You give honor and respect to Jehovah by your thorough answer.

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I AM one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I am always learning. I am NOT an expert in the full sense of the word but I can answer questions on the reliability of the NWT - the so called mind control problems-so called prophecies - how being a JW affects the individual and relatives and general practices and history of Jehovah’s Witnesses. >>WARNING<< Please be aware that there are people here who ARE NOT practicing JWs. By all means ask these ones questions. Depending on the question you will get an honest answer, but, generally the answer you get, will mislead you as to what we believe, often because, they do not give ALL the relevant details. These ones will, have an agenda against JWs., and will at times give answers that are not correct in regard to JW teachings and practices. If you are after a answer from one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, please read some of the answers that the various experts have published before choosing someone. If you want to ask one of the NON JWs a question, that is fine, BUT if you want a balancing view after asking one of the NON JWs, ask a JW the same question. PLEASE ALSO NOTE: There(have been)and are, some "experts" here who are NOT always the most courteous and polite, at times are actually quite rude, that applies to both JW's and non JW's and their answers may offend, especially when they get personal and attack the character of the person and not the message. Unfortunately some here that have done that. So it IS IMPORTANT to chose an "expert" that YOU feel will best suit YOU by reading some of their past answers . . . . .


I have been a publisher since 1964. When I first went on the internet I found a lot of negative information dealing with Jehovah’s Witnesses covering prophecy, mind control and what many said was a very bad translation of the Bible known as the NWT. It shook my faith. After may hours researching these topics I could see why some felt that way, but, I was also able to explain why there were these misleading views. I can now set matters straight for anyone that has negative information about Jehovah’s Witness to show them that such information is at best misleading and at worst dangerous lies.

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