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Jehovah`s Witness/Derrick Hollands OPINION of the UNCHRISTIAN PAGAN CROSS


Hi Bro. Rando, I noticed Derrick Holland gave a bunch of LIES REGARDING THE CROSS.

The cross was a pagan symbol before it became a Christian symbol.

Is the Cross a Christian Symbol?

We are told, and most believe, that the cross is a holy symbol. They have them on their church steeples, on their altars in the churches, on their walls, hanging from their rear view mirrors and their necks.

Most people don’t give the following a second thought: A cross on the wall of the church reminds them of God's act of love and atonement in Christ's sacrifice at Calvary, "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world". The cross also reminds Christians of Jesus' victory over sin and death, since it is believed that through His death and resurrection He conquered death itself.

Here's more to consider: The cross was NOT a Christian symbol before Jesus was even born! The cross was not a Christian symbol for hundreds of years after Jesus. A crucifix is a cross with the Jesus still nailed to it. Do you they think Jesus is honored if they have one of these hanging from their neck? With all the fancy talk about what the cross means on the walls of their churches; there is a total avoidance of the fact it is still a pagan idol! This elongated, elaborated statement must be Catholic in origin.

IF the cross is a Christian symbol, then WHY does the occult use it so much? If the cross is a Christian symbol, then WHY is it traceable way back to Babylon and Egypt, as far back as 2,000 B.C.? Many ancient cultures used crosses or the mystic Tau. Babylon seems to be the originator from ancient Chaldea, but you can find crosses in Egypt, India, China, Africa, Mexico, Greece, Italy, and South American histories. All before Jesus was ever born! If pagans had never used crosses as idols, then developed them into instruments of torture and death; they never would have thought to wear a cross with diamonds on a necklace!

The cross is a most sacred idol to the Roman Catholic Church. This point in itself should raise suspicion. The cross was incorporated into Roman worship after 430 A.D., but it was another 150 years UNTIL the cross made it all the way up to the steeples. In the 6th century, the ROMAN CATHOLIC Church of Rome sanctioned the cross. Believe it or not, at the council of Ephesus, it was decreed that a cross was a "requirement" in every home!

Of course it is not considered an idol anymore, because some pope said it is holy!!! Lol! What do you think JEHOVAH God's feelings are on this ABOUT HIS FIRST CREATED SON JESUS IS? Does God say, "Well, if it is okay with the Roman Catholic Pope, then it's okay with me"? Remember, THE EARLY CHRISTIANS did not have to worship or bow down before something for it to be an idol. But, some argue " the cross is different from all those other crosses". Is that like saying you have pot bellied pig, but he's different from all those "other" pigs? What THEY "think" a cross means today does not change the reality of it being an idol.

Do they think any of the disciples would have been inclined to enter a building with a big cross on its' steeple, a week after JESUS had ascended to his GOD AND FATHER? Wouldn't they have thought it was a house of crucifixion; rather than a house of God???? What if the Apostles were transported to here and now today? Would the Apostles want to enter a church with a big cross on it? The cross was a very horrible torture instrument of the day. Nobody at that time would have ever glorified it, or made a little wooden one to hang on their neck.

If Jesus was shot by an assault rifle when He atoned for our sin, I truly believe people would have a little "M-16" hanging from their necklace. There would also be an "M-60" on every steeple, and the "longer" the belt of bullets; the "holier" the people would feel. That would turn the "Rambo" series into sacred holy religious movies! If nobody can tell you are a believer by your speech, actions, love, and life you live; then no amount of hardware around your neck, on your dash or wall, or on your steeple will convey that fact either.

Not only was Jesus displeased with idols, to bring them into our house would be forbidden. (Deut. 7:25, 26) What were they supposed to do? Burn them with fire!!!!! (Deut. 7:5) Even so much as inquiring about how other people worshiped their gods was forbidden, as well as doing likewise. (Deut. 12:30, 31) The punishment for doing so... (Deut. 17:2-5)
What is the second commandment again? (Ex. 20:4, 5) You shall not make any graven images. C'mon now, how stupid is Derrick Holland's reasonings? Lol!
There is absolutely no difference between the New Testament view (1 John 5:21) and the Old Testament view about idols. (Deut. 12:4)

Thank you for your inquiry about the Cross.  Pagans began worshiping the "Cross" about 4,000 years ago in Ancient Babylon. It was and IS considered a sacred and holy icon to represent Trinity gods.

"CROSS - Many people assume that the cross is a Christian symbol. Christians have indeed adopted the cross but its origins date back long before the Messiah was ever born. The cross can be dated back to ancient Babylon and the worship of the sun-gods Mithra and Tammuz. In fact the cross was not used by Christians until the fourth century after Emperor Constantine (a pagan sun-worshipper) had a vision of the cross in front of the sun . "   

The Cross is an "Idol" representing Trinity Worship .  According to the Trinity Doctrine "the trinity in unity is to be worshipped."

Derrick Holland rejects the teachings of Jesus Christ.  "God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth." (John 4:24)

Trinitarians claim you must worship the Trinity to be "saved".  It's unbiblical, Satanic Propaganda.  The frogs are croaking and gathering for the War of God Almighty. (Rev 16:13-14)

Take Care and keep fighting the "fine" fight!
Brother Rando


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Brother Rando is a student of Prophecy and one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing with the Faithful and Discreet slave. His interests are directed towards how the time of the end would come about. The earth’s population today is going through a physical, spiritual and emotional tribulation that has been prophesied concerning a time of distress as it enters into a cleansing period of removing wickedness by means of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 12:1) Brother Rando’s discussions are of keen interest to many who await for God's Kingdom. He asserts that his discussions are just that, and not Prophecies, nor does he make the claim to be inspired. His authority is the Bible. He proclaims the year 2034 to be of very high interest to all. Like a GPS, that gives Insight to location, 2034 allows us to gauge where we are in the stream of time according to God’s Will. According to Brother Rando, the Bible carries two thoughts in it’s passages, one is fleshy and the other is spiritual. Jesus Christ warned Peter of thinking fleshy and that this type of thinking is not from God. (Matthew 16:23) In order to measure time, a method of measurement is needed. Measuring time by “the day” would mean a 24 hour period. However, measuring “the day” spiritually would mean a period of time yet to be revealed using other scripture to interpret the method needed. By looking into the Bible, we can actually determine what God meant by “the day” when looking into his Word on how his Will would come about. As we read (Genesis 2:16-17) the punishment for disobedience was death “in the day”. As time went on, the scriptures do begin to reveal the time frame of “the day”. According to Genesis 5:5, Adam lived 930 years and then he died. Satan who thinks like a man, got it wrong! (Genesis 3:4-5) Why Study the Bible


In Brother Rando’s research of the Bible, he found scripture does interpret other scripture. The answer to how long a day was, according to God’s Will was found in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. This is vital to gaining understanding in how we are to measure time in God’s view. Spiritually and not fleshy or physical. A day in heavens time is a thousand years to us. It’s by this method we can measure time and where we are in the stream of time of the end. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) Was Jesus indicating that he was the Temple of God, God’s Kingdom? And that the temple would in fact be destroyed or broken down? According to God’s Word, the following scripture is the basis for Salvation. “For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9) In order for John 2:19 and Romans 10:9 to come in line, did Jesus utter a prophecy about God's Kingdom since he stated, “I will raise it up”? IF the basis for salvation is that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him up. We can conclude that Jesus did not raise himself up, but it was God that raised him from the dead since he was dead and conscious of nothing at all. (Ecc 9:5) Jesus prophesied that HE would raise God's Kingdom. (Rev 5:10) Jesus was speaking prophetically of raising the temple within the third day of a thousand years. Jesus warned Peter not to think the thoughts of man. (Matthew 16:23) Based on 2 Peter 3:8 we are able to determine the time frame to when God’s Kingdom would be raised up by Jesus Christ. Jesus was put to death on Nisan 14, 33CE. The two days would actually represent two thousand years and we come up with the year 2033. Jesus stated,“in three days I will raise it up.” So the third day is upon us in 2034.

“I fully support, acknowledge and cooperate with *The Faithful Steward and Its' Governing Body* of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, is appointing over his belongings. This Slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the Mountain-like organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has been destroyed, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes. Even though Babylon the Great is spoken as a woman and she has fallen in (Rev. 14:8), the sacred secret is that she is not a woman at all, but the World of False Religion that will be utterly destroyed by the personal hand of Jesus Christ as (King Abaddon) in the coming Great Tribulation never to be found again! (Matthew 24:14)

Secular Historians point to the Temple in Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. But was Jesus Christ speaking in a physical sense since that Temple is non-existent today? Jehovah Witnesses assert that Jesus under inspiration of Holy Spirit was actually prophesying about his spiritual body as the only means to approach his Heavenly Father. (John 14:6) Not the Temple made by hands or his fleshy body as Christendom claims, but his spiritual body, known as the Body of Christ. (1 Cor 12:27) This would actually be the Collective Representative of God’s Kingdom in how we can approach the One True God JEHOVAH. Brother Rando is not the first to come up with this time frame. In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

According to the discussion, 1914 represents the year that the earth would enter into a time of distress and that time limit could very well be 120 years. Which again, brings up the year 2034. The year 1914 is derived by a prophecy of the end of the Gentile times. Brother Rando insists that we should not live by a date, but to use this time to get right with God. Jesus continually pointed that the people who were on the earth when he would raise God’s Temple would be like those people in Noah’s time, taking no note. Where do the 120 years come from? If we read Genesis 6:3, most people think of this scripture in the fleshy sense of man’s lifespan. But could there be a spiritual meaning, giving those with Insight a divine warning? The Bible does say, “make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end.” (Daniel 12:4) Could it be, this world has entered into it’s Last Days in 1914? (1 Timothy 3:1-5) Yet there is another scripture that helps us measure the time. In Ecclesiastes 6:6 it reads, “Even supposing that he has lived a thousand years twice over and yet he has not seen what is good, is it not to just one place that everyone is going?” The chapter talks about vanity and that if a person actually lived two thousand years without God’s Kingdom we are all heading to the same place. Since death was the punishment, we would need God’s Kingdom to conquer death, the place we all are heading. A thousand years twice over is two thousand years. Simple math again brings us to the time of 2034, when the second thousand years has been brought to it’s finish. Could Christ Millennial reign be from 2034 to 3034? We don’t know. Jesus stated, he would raise God’s Temple in the third day, so we can expect God's Kingdom to be fully operating sometime between the years 2034 and 3034. However, Jesus Christ was risen first thing on the very morning in the third day. Most Bible readers are in agreement that Christ does rule for a thousand years.

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