Jehovah`s Witness/Trinitarians vs Trinitarians

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Brother Rando,

This so confusing about Trinitarians.

If what Richard is saying is true,that they (Trinitarians) don't believe in what other Trinitarians teach and believe (Three in one/Modalism/Polytheism/Partialism)-- http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2014/1/exposing-error.htm

They why do they call themselves Trinitarians if they are not Trinitarians?

Why confused people?

Why not just say plainly - There's ONLY One Jehovah God and He is a Trinity or even part of a Trinity god.

I mean why confuse people.

Like they say - if it walks, quacks, eats, lives like a duck then it must be a duck.

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Trinitarians are good liars.  When trintarians are confronted with scripture, they often dodge their Organizational doctrines and lie as they go.  How is it they teach "God is like an egg" or "God is like water" and then say it is the trinity? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOieHqt213U&list=PLDCCF748A5C3FCF22&index=5

Derrick Holland claims Jehovah is the Trinity is Psalms 83:18.  Funny how the Father is MOST HIGH when the three persons in the trinity are supposed to be co-equal. Jesus NEVER said that!(John 14:28)  

Then when he was pummeled by scripture he retorts that Jesus is the Trinity in John 1:1. So how is it that NOW Jesus who has "a beginning" in John 1:1 goes from the second person of the trinity god to the trinity itself?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegtsGGqY0U&list=PLDCCF748A5C3FCF22

The first instance of God in John 1:1 is not "theos" but THEON which according to Greek Grammer invokes a part of speech of theos to the Masculine Noun. http://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm

The second instance of God is not theon but rather "theos"  which according to Greek Grammer invokes a part of speech to the Feminine Noun, "a god".  http://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm

Trinitarians LIE and say "theon" is in both instances and it simply is not.  First instance, "theon".  Second instance, "theos".    http://biblehub.com/text/john/1-1.htm

Notice how the scripture is introduced.  "In the beginning was the Word " not God but LOGOS.  The Logos has a Beginning because he was "begotten".  The Greek Word is arche' which is a Feminine Noun describing The Word.  Jehovah's Personal Messenger.  Jesus was created ahead of the REST.  i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").  Jesus is firstborn of all creation is he not?

"Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago."  (Proverb 8:22)  Interesting how the description of the Feminine Noun "theos" is: i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").  http://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm

When Jesus talked about raising God's Temple, he referred to the Temple using words {this} and {it}.  He was actually talking about his body.  The Body of Christ ekklésia, is a Feminine Noun! http://biblehub.com/greek/1577.htm

{Wisdom} like Jesus "Body" can be referred too by the neuter pronoun {{it}}which Jesus did, but Wisdom can also be referred too in the Feminine sense ((she)) since WISDOM is "the initial (starting) point.  "From ancient times I was installed, From the start, from times earlier than the earth."(Proverb 8:23)     

Notice the similarities and how this puzzle fits so nicely together revealing Jesus Christ personified as WISDOM!

"To you, O people, I am calling ; I raise my voice to everyone.  You inexperienced ones, learn shrewdness; You stupid ones, acquire an understanding heart. Listen, for what I say is important, My lips speak what is right;  For my mouth softly utters truth , And my lips detest what is wicked. All the sayings of my mouth are righteous. None of them are twisted or crooked.  They are all straightforward to the discerning And right to those who have found knowledge. (Proverbs 8:4-9)

Happy is the man who listens to me By coming early to my doors day by day, By waiting next to my doorposts; For the one finding me will find life , And he receives approval from Jehovah. But the one who ignores me harms himself, And those who hate me love death." (Proverbs 8:34-36)

"Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into his house and take the evening meal with him and he with me." (Rev 3:20)

Who is the Word of God that is calling and gives Life if not Jesus Christ?

Take Care,
Brother Rando  

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Brother Rando is a student of Prophecy and one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing with the Faithful and Discreet slave. His interests are directed towards how the time of the end would come about. The earth’s population today is going through a physical, spiritual and emotional tribulation that has been prophesied concerning a time of distress as it enters into a cleansing period of removing wickedness by means of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 12:1) Brother Rando’s discussions are of keen interest to many who await for God's Kingdom. He asserts that his discussions are just that, and not Prophecies, nor does he make the claim to be inspired. His authority is the Bible. He proclaims the year 2034 to be of very high interest to all. Like a GPS, that gives Insight to location, 2034 allows us to gauge where we are in the stream of time according to God’s Will. According to Brother Rando, the Bible carries two thoughts in it’s passages, one is fleshy and the other is spiritual. Jesus Christ warned Peter of thinking fleshy and that this type of thinking is not from God. (Matthew 16:23) In order to measure time, a method of measurement is needed. Measuring time by “the day” would mean a 24 hour period. However, measuring “the day” spiritually would mean a period of time yet to be revealed using other scripture to interpret the method needed. By looking into the Bible, we can actually determine what God meant by “the day” when looking into his Word on how his Will would come about. As we read (Genesis 2:16-17) the punishment for disobedience was death “in the day”. As time went on, the scriptures do begin to reveal the time frame of “the day”. According to Genesis 5:5, Adam lived 930 years and then he died. Satan who thinks like a man, got it wrong! (Genesis 3:4-5) Why Study the Bible

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In Brother Rando’s research of the Bible, he found scripture does interpret other scripture. The answer to how long a day was, according to God’s Will was found in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. This is vital to gaining understanding in how we are to measure time in God’s view. Spiritually and not fleshy or physical. A day in heavens time is a thousand years to us. It’s by this method we can measure time and where we are in the stream of time of the end. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) Was Jesus indicating that he was the Temple of God, God’s Kingdom? And that the temple would in fact be destroyed or broken down? According to God’s Word, the following scripture is the basis for Salvation. “For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9) In order for John 2:19 and Romans 10:9 to come in line, did Jesus utter a prophecy about God's Kingdom since he stated, “I will raise it up”? IF the basis for salvation is that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him up. We can conclude that Jesus did not raise himself up, but it was God that raised him from the dead since he was dead and conscious of nothing at all. (Ecc 9:5) Jesus prophesied that HE would raise God's Kingdom. (Rev 5:10) Jesus was speaking prophetically of raising the temple within the third day of a thousand years. Jesus warned Peter not to think the thoughts of man. (Matthew 16:23) Based on 2 Peter 3:8 we are able to determine the time frame to when God’s Kingdom would be raised up by Jesus Christ. Jesus was put to death on Nisan 14, 33CE. The two days would actually represent two thousand years and we come up with the year 2033. Jesus stated,“in three days I will raise it up.” So the third day is upon us in 2034.

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“I fully support, acknowledge and cooperate with *The Faithful Steward and Its' Governing Body* of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, is appointing over his belongings. This Slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the Mountain-like organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has been destroyed, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes. Even though Babylon the Great is spoken as a woman and she has fallen in (Rev. 14:8), the sacred secret is that she is not a woman at all, but the World of False Religion that will be utterly destroyed by the personal hand of Jesus Christ as (King Abaddon) in the coming Great Tribulation never to be found again! (Matthew 24:14)

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Secular Historians point to the Temple in Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. But was Jesus Christ speaking in a physical sense since that Temple is non-existent today? Jehovah Witnesses assert that Jesus under inspiration of Holy Spirit was actually prophesying about his spiritual body as the only means to approach his Heavenly Father. (John 14:6) Not the Temple made by hands or his fleshy body as Christendom claims, but his spiritual body, known as the Body of Christ. (1 Cor 12:27) This would actually be the Collective Representative of God’s Kingdom in how we can approach the One True God JEHOVAH. Brother Rando is not the first to come up with this time frame. In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

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According to the discussion, 1914 represents the year that the earth would enter into a time of distress and that time limit could very well be 120 years. Which again, brings up the year 2034. The year 1914 is derived by a prophecy of the end of the Gentile times. Brother Rando insists that we should not live by a date, but to use this time to get right with God. Jesus continually pointed that the people who were on the earth when he would raise God’s Temple would be like those people in Noah’s time, taking no note. Where do the 120 years come from? If we read Genesis 6:3, most people think of this scripture in the fleshy sense of man’s lifespan. But could there be a spiritual meaning, giving those with Insight a divine warning? The Bible does say, “make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end.” (Daniel 12:4) Could it be, this world has entered into it’s Last Days in 1914? (1 Timothy 3:1-5) Yet there is another scripture that helps us measure the time. In Ecclesiastes 6:6 it reads, “Even supposing that he has lived a thousand years twice over and yet he has not seen what is good, is it not to just one place that everyone is going?” The chapter talks about vanity and that if a person actually lived two thousand years without God’s Kingdom we are all heading to the same place. Since death was the punishment, we would need God’s Kingdom to conquer death, the place we all are heading. A thousand years twice over is two thousand years. Simple math again brings us to the time of 2034, when the second thousand years has been brought to it’s finish. Could Christ Millennial reign be from 2034 to 3034? We don’t know. Jesus stated, he would raise God’s Temple in the third day, so we can expect God's Kingdom to be fully operating sometime between the years 2034 and 3034. However, Jesus Christ was risen first thing on the very morning in the third day. Most Bible readers are in agreement that Christ does rule for a thousand years.

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Armageddon is the actual cleansing of the earth from all wickedness. If in the literal sense, it would consist of angels coming down from heaven to bring death to all those rejecting the Kingdom of God. But if it is spiritual, Armageddon could very will take place without the knowledge that it is actually occurring. If this is the case, then Armageddon would commence without the knowledge that the wicked are simply dying off. There seems to be evidence in scripture to how God destroyed the forefather’s in the wilderness. They died off in the wilderness at the hand of the destroyer without knowing of such, as Paul eloquently explains in 1 Corinthians 10:1-10. If.....

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