Jehovah`s Witness/Humbly admit it Mr. Holland - you got caught!
Mr. Holland, the way i see it, I think you should stop digging before you bury yourself further. Why not just admit it? You got caught. Your own words betray you.
But since you insist, let's continue the analysis and prove that I'm correct all along.
OK let's see, in your defense you said:
>>"This is what I mean, when I say that Eddie doesn’t think things through, or get anything correct. He attempts to make my first quote say that JWs believe that only the 144,000 are “saved”, which is not what I said. But then, he shoots himself in the foot, by quoting where I said that JWs believe that being a part of the Organization, is necessary for salvation. "
So, which is it, Eddie? Did I REALLY say that JWs teach that only 144,000 are “saved”, or did I say that JWs teach that they can be saved by being part of the Organization? It can’t be both, Eddie. So, which is it? See, you contradicted yourself, without even having the brains to realize it. This is what being blinded by hate, does to you."
Now comparing it to what you originally said:
>>...He is not Mediator for merely 144,000 select individuals, but He is Mediator for ALl men. God wants ALL men to be saved...not just some."
>> So, which is it, Eddie? Did I REALLY say that JWs teach that only 144,000 are “saved”, or did I say that JWs teach that they can be saved by being part of the Organization? <<
Answer: Yes you did! You "REALLY [said] that JWs teach that only 144,000 are “saved”.
To quote you: >>...He is not Mediator for merely 144,000 select individuals, but He is Mediator for ALl men. God wants ALL men to be saved...not just some."
Focusing on the key words:
>>"God wants ALL men to be saved...not just some."
"...not just some."
Hence your OWN WORDS betray you!
As for this:
>>"did I say that JWs teach that they can be saved by being part of the Organization?"
Answer: Yes you did!
You said it here "JWs teach that they can be saved by being part of the Organization"
supported by this statement of yours here:
where you claim that we, Jehovah's Witnesses ">>... place our hope of salvation in our participation with a certain religion, or our adherence to its dictates,"
even said "is spiritual suicide"
Which is contrary to what we believe and teach.
Just because ONE is a Jehovah's Witness or part of the Organization, doesn't mean that one is saved. If you believed this, then your either lying or just not familiar with what we believe and teach.
In any case, here let me show you. Here are some snipits from a 1960 Watchtower:
*** w60 3/1 p. 134 What Is God’s Way to Salvation? ***
...When a person, on the basis of the Scriptural knowledge he has gained, has belief in Christ as the Savior whom God provided and shows that faith by his works, he can consider himself as being on the way to salvation. It would be a mistake for him to think that he is now saved and cannot fall. He must show by his endurance in the Christian faith that he is worthy of salvation. “Let him that thinks he has a firm position beware that he does not fall.”—1 Cor. 10:12.
*** w60 3/1 p. 135 What Is God’s Way to Salvation? ***
PRINCIPAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SALVATION
For a person to gain salvation God requires that he exercise faith in Him and Christ Jesus. A person cannot expect God’s favor when he refuses to exercise faith in the Father as a Savior and in the One whom the Father sent to make salvation possible. It is written: “For ‘anyone that calls upon the name of Jehovah will be saved.’” (Rom. 10:13) This has to be done by faith, not only in Jehovah and his Son, but also in the truthfulness of his Word. “Moreover, without faith it is impossible to win his good pleasure, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.”—Heb. 11:6.
What Is Required to Gain Salvation?
Now if you still don't get the above, let me just explain it to you by way of a simple question and answer.
Here it is:
When can a marathon runner say that he or she has won the race?
While still in the race, still running or after he/she crosses the FINISH LINE?
Isn't it obvious? After crossing the finish line?
Same thing goes with all of us. Our UNTIRING continued faithfulness to God in this race for life determines whether were going to be saved or NOT. But once we FAITHFULLY crossed the finish line (whether by death or after Armageddon) then we truthfully can say we're saved. Until then we're all in a race but God through his loving kindness has provided to us his Organization to HELP US REACH the finish line (1 Cor 9:24).
Unfortunately you and your listeners/followers are in the wrong organization heading in the wrong direction.
So stop digging your hole and humbly admit it, you finally got caught in your own WEB of lies.