Jehovah`s Witness/Rando's Trinity


Greetings Rando,

I have read the last several posts regarding Eddie and Kevin.  First, you should know that I sent Eddie a private e-mail, one that he has not replied to.  I do not know if he read it or not, but I addressed certain things that you two have discussed.

Second, you made a couple statements in Kevin's reply that appear to make a case for you, but they do not.

Please see below.

The link you provided to show that "theos" can mean "a god" says this...
"Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally."  Below that, is applies the general use to many different verses, but John 1:1 is not one of them.  

In the next paragraph, you invoke an application of the feminine noun without the infinite article.  In his 1982 book, "The Jehovah's Witness' New Testament," Greek scholar Robert Countess looked up all such occurrences in the NT (theos without the definite article) and checked the NWT.  He discovered that the WTS only followed their stated rule 6% of the time.
94% of the time, they translated it "God" anyway!

You use John 1:18 which literally translates as "only-begotten God", but you focus on the wrong word.  "Monogenes" from which we get "only-begotten" means (according to
Definition: only, only-begotten; unique.  Also, 3439 monogenḗs (from 3411 /misthōtós, "one-and-only" and 1085 /génos, "offspring, stock") – properly, one-and-only; "one of a kind" – literally, "one (monos) of a class, genos" (the only of its kind).

Using the same sources you used, one can easily see that Jesus is "the only of its kind" God, not a created god.  He is "unique".

I take no issue with the "elohim"/angels comments.

The main issue I have is that the translators of the NWT picked whatever definition fit into their doctrine rather than allowing the words themselves to dictate doctrine.  Of course I am not blind to the fact that many other translations on the other side of the aisle do the same.  I just appreciate consistency.

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I am not a Jehovah's Witness, however I can answer many questions concerning the ideas and doctrines on which they disagree with mainstream Christianity. I have spent a great deal of time in ministry with current and ex-Jehovah's Witnesses, as well as those who have started to become disillusioned with the Watchtower Organization.


Jehovah's Witnesses are generally wonderful and moral people who are zealous for God. However, in their zeal, they have pledged allegiance to what they believe is God's spirit-directed organization. This allegiance blinds them from allowing God's word alone to work in them. My hope is to share the love of Jesus Christ with all who seek salvation, no matter their label or denomination. My experiences come from the relationship that I have with Him as the source of my daily strength. These experiences create an undeniable testimony of salvation by grace through faith in the cleansing blood of the Lamb of God. Through prayer and meditation on God's holy word alone, we find truth as revealed to us through the Holy Spirit.

As the word "organization" is misleading in this particular area, I want to be clear that, as a member of the body of Christ, the label or denomination of the church I attend is not the source of my salvation. I do not go to or through any organization for official knowledge or guidance. I go to God's word alone.

I have a Bachelor and Master's Degree with extensive educational experience.

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