We all know that Logic exists. Who created logic, who gave us logic?

I believe the phrase "his thoughts and ways are higher than ours" means that God is more clever than we are, not that He works with a different logic.

Derrick and orthodoxs believe that God is above logic. They say we cant imagine Him, we can't describe Him, we cant name Him, we cant understand Him. Sounds like a remote God, doesnt it? Where does man and his logic fits in the picture then? God would be another being having no relation with man.

Then, I ask you Derrick to answer to me "yes" or "no". Isnt it illogical that a God with a Logic created another being with a different Logic?LOL!!!

Does God creates beings with different logic than His one?LOL!!!

Can you answer Derrick or no?LOL!!!


Hi again Christaras

It's interesting isn't it. If god has a different logic to ours this scripture you present "his thoughts and ways are higher than ours" is this written to be understood within God's logic or our logic??

It's kinda strange don't you think to go around telling people which verses are written to be read logically to humans and which one's aren't??

Who made up this rule of how to read the bible?? It certainly didn't come from God. Who chooses the logical passages and the non logical one's?? God certainly doesn't so who does

Then of course we now have this new blasphemy that we also get to decide which bible passages count in our day and which one's don't.

I mean if this one doesn't count

Acts 2:

42 "And they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles"

Then surely we must discount this one too

2 Tim 3:

16 "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work"

Then also how do we know which one's are out of date and which one's aren't?? Who decides this. God doesn't, so it must be a teaching of man.

I just am simply shocked that Derrick Holland has admitted what I've been saying all along that Christendom think they can pick and choose scriptures to stick to an assumption and this is acceptable to God. Blasphemy!!

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The truth is all about scripture and logic. The two go hand in hand . There is not one bible verse that cannot be understood within the realms of human reasoning. Not one!! Why would it?? The bible is God's message to his creation . His creation who he made to understand things in a specific way. God is not stupid or unwise as to leave as a message then allow us to guess what it means or who he is. 1 Tim 2:3This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth" Notice the expression "accurate knowledge".

The bible leaves signs of true christianity there are many. Jehovah's witnesses meet every single sign. One sign is the removal of false teachings that permeated the world soon after the apostles died. Jesus foretold this and he also foretold of the restoration of pure worship in the period known as the last days. The days we are currently living in. Jesus was a master of using illustrations he used an illustration to highlight this point Matt 13: "The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. 25While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. 27So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ 28He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse" Why did he speak in illustrations? Matt 13:10So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted" The kingdom of the heavens is full of sacred secrets that Jesus reveals only to his followers. This privilege is open to all who are really willing to submit to God and his Christ in action not just in words. These are the ones God is looking for. Are you really one?? If so I encourage you to let Jehovah's witnesses show you what the Bible really teaches.

False religion is disgusting to God and to his true worshippers it is likened in the Bible to a harlot Rev 17:"I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication" Whereas the bride of Christ is likened to a virgin Rev 14: 4"These are the ones who did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins" These are both used as spiritual terms here and show the importance of pure and clean worship for God's people.

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