Jehovah`s Witness/What's With The Rejection, Eddie?

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What's up with the rejection you sent, saying "not deserving a response"?  Of course it deserves a response, seeing as how I merely asked you for quotes for the things you lied and claimed I believe, and have stated.

So, you believe your false accusations deserve posting, but the evidence for them does not?

Well, that's not how it works, Eddie.  See, its not my fault you chose to post lies.  That is your fault.  When you sat down at your computer to write your post, you had the choice to either tell the truth, or lie.  You chose to lie.  That is not my fault....its yours.  

So, I merely wrote you and asked you for statements from me, where I stated the things you SAID I did.  And in your mind, that isn't deserving of a response.  

Seems to me that it actually means you don't HAVE ANY, and that you made it up.

So, try again.  Here is the question as I sent it to you 4 days ago, which you said isn't deserving of a response.

It was....

This is a revision of my original question to you, as I found a quote that I was looking for, and wanted to include in my question. You may feel free to "reject" the other question. In fact, my prediction is, that you will "reject" both of them. That is your usual style.

Anyway, the revised version of my question.....

Hello Eddie. I have read your very typical repetition of your usual lies, and decided to ask you to provide some direct quotes which would substantiate them. Would you please provide references for the following….

“DH is the one defaming Jesus' God and Father? Heck, he even denies Jesus when its convenient.”

Please simply show where I have denied Jesus, and defamed Jehovah God. And by this, I am not referring to some teaching that YOU don’t like. I am talking about a direct defamation of God, and a denial of Jesus Christ.


And since you have decided you want to continue this next lie, despite its having been refuted several times, please provide the quote from me for the following….

“Who is the one twisting the scriptures here, is it not Holland who said the holy spirit changed the passover into EASTER?

Is it not this guy D Holland?”

I would like that quote from me, if you don’t mind.


“Who is it that keeps tearing us down?”

Please provide evidence of this, where I have torn your religion down. Not examples of my answering false attacks against me personally, refuting lies told about me or my beliefs, or answering a WT doctrine in light of Scripture. Just a good example of “tearing down” the JWs here in the forum.


“Who is it that teaches the lie that the Christmas tree is the symbol of Jesus Christ?”

This one, I’ve got to see…


“Who is it that says the lie that "once save always save"?

I’ve got to see this one as well, as this is an oft repeated lie, and I am quite confident that you will see nothing to this effect in 15 years of answering questions here. Is this just an ASSUMPTION you have made, or something you have actually SEEN me write?

As far as I recall, the ONLY comment I have ever made on this forum regarding “Once saved, always saved”, is this one….

“Actually, I do not think Romans 4:5 plays into the eternal security discussion one way or the other. That is another whole discussion in and of itself. The Bible contains many wonderful promises of the security of the believer, and many warnings of turning away, as well. My position on this issue is that we had best take BOTH sets of Scriptures seriously. Some Christian groups believe that once salvation is given, it can never be forfeited for any reason. Other Christians hold that salvation is a free gift given by faith, and is dependant on continuing in faith. My position is not typical of the Pentecostal groups, or the normal Baptist groups, for that matter. I believe there are promises of security, and also warnings to be heeded, as well.”

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2012/12/romans-4-5.htm

So again, is your above claim based on something you have actually SEEN me write, or on an ASSUMPTION that you have made. Or, are you just making up another lie? Please clarify your intentions here.


But you did make an interesting point about the “blind leading the blind”, all the while you are making friends with a Scripture-twisting Bible-denier, who presumes to tamper with Matthew 28:19. But that’s always been your practice….Doing the very thing you are complaining about.

And I also noticed you didn’t answer any of the points of my post, which clearly demolished your attempt to defend twisting Matthew 28:19. As usual, you have no answers, so you simply post more lies and attacks.

So, I’m calling your bluff…Please provide quotes from me, which would substantiate your accusations listed above. If you reject this inquiry, and show that you cannot provide them, then you will be proven a liar once again. Your choice.

I want the quotes this time, Eddie.  You don't get to just post lies, and expect me not to call you out on it.

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Persistent you are Mr. Holland. Very well then. Let me answer just one or two as i have no time to dig the mounds and mounds of nonsense of yours.

If I'm wrong in what I said, then feel free to correct me.

But like I said - since you're the one telling people here that a loving God will burn people in hell fire forever. Thus you're defaming Jesus' God and Father.

You're painting a loving, merciful God who never committed any wickedness barbaric and unloving. Torturing and burning people forever in hell fire. You defame him with your false teaching.

As the Scripture say of Jehovah God:

“It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?”” (Genesis 18:25)

“Now let the fear of Jehovah be upon you. Be careful about what you do, for with Jehovah our God there is no injustice, no partiality, no bribe-taking.”” (2 Chronicles 19:7)

“Declaring that Jehovah is upright. He is my Rock, in whom there is no unrighteousness.” (Psalm 92:15)

You deny Jesus when it's convenient in that you keep switching him back n forth with your Trinity teaching. Who is the Almighty God, Jesus or Jehovah? Both or just one? Yet you say Jesus is Almighty God.

You will even deny him for the sake of your confusing three in One godhead doctrine. Even not willing accept that we should be baptized in "the name of Jesus Christ" and not in the name of your trinity godhead - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)

"Christmas tree"

As a born-again baptist Pentecostal believing person (or whatever you are), you sure are slick. So tell me this, if  a born again baptist Pentecostal Christian cuts a tree and decorates it during the month of December, what is it for? For what purpose or occasion the Christmas tree is for? You mean it doesn't mean anything? It's not a symbol of Christ's birth? If so why decorate it then during the month of December? Why not decorate it during the month of March or July? If it has nothing to do with Christ then why use it? Are you this gullible Mr. Holland? Or are people in Christendom this gullible?

As for "Once saved, always saved”, you said,

“Actually, I do not think Romans 4:5 plays into the eternal security discussion one way or the other. That is another whole discussion in and of itself. The Bible contains many wonderful promises of the security of the believer, and many warnings of turning away, as well. My position on this issue is that we had best take BOTH sets of Scriptures seriously. Some Christian groups believe that once salvation is given, it can never be forfeited for any reason. Other Christians hold that salvation is a free gift given by faith, and is dependant on continuing in faith. My position is not typical of the Pentecostal groups, or the normal Baptist groups, for that matter. I believe there are promises of security, and also warnings to be heeded, as well.”

Slick answer as usual. An answer that's not really an answer. But like I said, you always believe "Once saved, always saved”. Otherwise why the slick answer?


Why say:


"I believe there are promises of security, and also warnings to be heeded, as well." Why the obfuscation?


Instead of the clear teaching of Jesus Christ:

"But the one who has endured to the end will be saved." (Matthew 24:13)


Because it's obvious. You believe that once a person "accepts Christ as their savior", he is save. Hence "Once save always save".

Otherwise you will have no problem in saying that the "Once save always save" doctrine is a complete lie. A big made up lie.

Come on, I challenge you to say it. The "Once save always save" doctrine is a complete lie. A big made up lie.


have a nice day.  

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