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Hello Derrick.
After reading a post today I felt it necessary to write the attached to the "expert". I guess the response is now just the usual M.O. Just wanted to pass on.

Btw... I have made this private, however, if in in the interest of "holding their feet to the fire", you find it helpful, you may make reference to this correspondence.

Regards.
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Hello Eddie,

I just read your response to the thread titled "Jesus went to Sheol?"
I noticed you posted links to what Richard says or believes. Unless I missed it, you did not do so for your statements about what Derrick believes/teaches. Could you provide appropriate links so readers can evaluate the arguments/teachings appropriately.
This is not meant meant to be contentious, however it struck me that one should be careful about accusing especially using scriptures (Matt 7:5). I noticed you quoted (Matt 15:8,9) suggesting those you mentioned are guilty. Logic would suggest that if new light is preached that is contrary to what was preached before then certainly either before or after the change/correction/new light that that/those individual(s) was/were teaching commands of men. Would you not agree? In particular when see words like "we thought" used to explain the reason for the change.

Regards.

You are very welcome.

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Good evening, Phillip.

You know, I noticed the very same thing.  This is an issue I have had with Eddie several times recently, as you well know....Him claiming something as my belief, but unable to provide a single reference to it.

The fact is, Eddie could not even address my beliefs at all, if it weren't for twisting and distorting them.  As everyone saw the other week, when he posted several things that I supposedly "said" and "teach", but when repeatedly asked for the reference, could only say "No quote" .  

But it seems he never learns, as I read this statement this morning....

EDDIE:  "One says (i.e. DH) Jesus and the Evildoer never died but went to Heaven that same day.

(BTW, Brother, do you know that even Heaven is very confusing when you asked what they mean by it? Some will say the thief went to "Paradise" somewhere in between 3rd or 1st heaven" - whatever)

See what I mean?  His claiming that I teach that the thief on the cross went to Heaven the very day that he died?  Completely false.  And Eddie knows it.  He simply has to lie, in order to even make a point.  In fact, I said only DAYS ago in fact, that before Jesus' death and resurrection, the door to Heaven had not been opened.  I also clearly stated, and gave Scripture from Hebrews chapter 11, that servants of God in the Old Testament (Covenant) were saved by placing faith in the promise of the coming Messiah, and by following God and trusting in the promises they had during that day, but that they did not immediately go to Heaven at death.  And as Jesus had not died and resurrected from the dead when He was assuring the thief on the cross, then the thief was still under the Old Covenant.  

And Eddie comes back with...."DH says the evildoer went to Heaven that same day"

Eddie really shows his ignorance and his far-below-elementary level understanding, of our beliefs.  You know, Phillip, I respect the fact that you may not agree with everything that I believe, but I also respect the fact that you desire to see honesty and truth being told.  All Richard and I have ever asked, is that they UNDERSTAND what our teaching is before they yap about it, and that they present it correctly in any rebuttal they offer.

Why anyone calling themselves "Christian" would refuse to at least be honest, is a mystery in and of itself.  

That's what I mean about Eddie....He gets nothing right.  Nothing.  He doesn't even care to.  If it weren't for distortions and misquotes, he would have nothing to say.

I appreciate the fact that you are honest enough to call him on the fact that he continually refuses to reference any actual statements of mine, when claiming to tell us what I believe.

And the fact that he REJECTED your simple request to provide those quotes, reminds me of all the rejections he sent to my asking him for the same thing, just a few short weeks ago.
 

An honest man WITH actual quotes, will be happy to provide them.  A dishonest man with no quotes, will reject your question if you ask for them.  Its just that simple.


Truthfully, I would like to reference this writing, but even better, would be if you allowed me to make it public.  Not for the purpose of continuing an argument with him, and my answer would be short.  But merely to let readers see that he rejects any and all attempts, to get him to explain his carelessness in quoting.  

Its no problem, though.  I will be answering Eddie's comments on this topic.  I won't be able to today, but hopefully tomorrow or Thursday.

I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying.  By saying I can reference it, you're not saying I can make it public, but rather, that I can mention the content of it?  I want to respect your wishes, either way.

Thanks, and take care.


Derrick

NOTE:  Thank you, Phillip, for writing me a follow up and allowing me to make this writing public.  I have revised this from my original answer somewhat, in that I wanted to add some comments about Eddie's poor quoting habits, and also to keep the comments I made to you about my correspondence with another expert, from being seen, as I am not sure if that expert would want that publicly known, until I have the chance to ask them.  But again, thank you for allowing me to post this.  

It needs to be seen that Eddie, once again, has been called out for his irresponsible referencing of my "beliefs", and yet again, rejects an honest attempt to get any documentation at all for it.  An honest man who had quotes, would provide them.  A dishonest man who doesn't, will reject your question.  

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I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.

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29 years of Biblical research into the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, and how they differ from the teachings of the Watchtower.

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I would advise each questioner to this forum, to carefully READ the profiles of the various volunteers. There are several such as myself, who are not practicing JWs, but will provide you with an accurate and honest answer, regarding JW teaching. If we don't know the answer, we will try to research and get it for you. There are also some excellent practicing JWs here, who also endeavor to give you a factual and honest answer, based on their point of view. I believe by getting both points of view, the questioner can weigh the evidence for themselves, and make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there are also 3 here who claim to be JWs, but do NOT give honest, or well-researched answers. They will tell you only what they want you to believe, and they often hide facts about the history of their religion, as well as print untruths about other people's beliefs. This is done in an attempt to deceive the unsuspecting reader. It can be easily seen who these 3 are, simply by reading the public posts and "answers" which they write. Their posts will normally be filled with personal attacks, and if you question them about some teaching or aspect of the Watchtower that makes them uncomfortable, they will often reject your question, question your motives for asking it, tell you that you have been reading "apostate" sites, or turn the conversation into an attack on another expert. These ones are better avoided, as there is nothing to be gained by way of positive discussion, as they are not interested in intelligent conversation, or honest dialogue. If after reading the forum, you still have any questions as to who they are, just ask me, and I will be happy to tell you. And I can also provide documentation of their willful dishonesty. One thing is for certain...in a forum where people from both sides claim to be "Christians", there should never be any willful lying. Such ones only create a distraction in the forum, and provide nothing of any real value.

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High School, some college. Studies of God's Word, the Bible, and how it compares to JW theology. I have found my own personal study and experiences to be far more valuable than any formal education or training. The Bible message is clear...Salvation is ONLY through and by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and no religious organization has a thing to do with it. While attendance at a Bible-preaching, Bible-believing church is a must for spiritual growth and fellowship, no church can grant salvation to its members. Nor is joining a particular group a prerequisite for being saved.

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