Jehovah`s Witness/My Baptist Co-Worker
I asked my Baptist Co Worker another question. Since you believe that the KJV is the inspired word of God and infallible, how come your translators claim Satan is God with a Capital "G" in Daniel Chapter 11? How can Satan be Almighty God I asked? He mumbles and walks away.
*But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honor with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.*-Daniel 11:38
Why can't he answer any of my questions Brother Garcia?
Thanks again for writing. What a thought provoking question you raised there.
"Since you believe that the KJV is the inspired word of God and infallible, how come your translators claim Satan is God with a Capital "G" in Daniel Chapter 11? How can Satan be Almighty God I asked?"
Exactly! If the KJV is ERROR FREE, why did its translators made Satan the Devil into "God" not a "god".
As it says:
"[Dan 11:38 KJV] 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God
of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
Was it a MISTAKE?
Only a Born Again Baptist and KJV Onlyists will say no, inspite of the fact that is staring them in the eye.
Let's notice their mistake again - "honour the God
of forces" then correctly followed by "and a god
whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold..."
What blinders they have on for not seeing this blunder?
Now, here's how the NWT correctly states it:
“...But instead he will give glory to the god of fortresses
; to a god
that his fathers did not know he will give glory by means of gold and silver and precious stones and desirable things.” (Daniel 11:38)
Nicely done! Very consistent isn't it?
Now will these Born Again Baptist Gun Toting Trinitarians have the guts to admit this mistake? I doubt it, unless they go against their established infallible belief that the KJV is error free. So don't hold your breath on that one.
Unfortunately, to add to what you said, there's more. Some are really bad and others are worse.
Here's just two of the many mistakes in the KJV Bible.
Now we already know according to Baptist belief, that "only bad people go STRAIGHT to Hell. They go there to be punished for their sins for all eternity. They are sent there to be burned alive forever and ever day in day out to pay for theirs sins." And they can't get out of it no matter what.
But then, heaven of heavens, their own KJV contradicted them!
In Jonah 2 here's what we read:
[Jon 2:2 KJV] 2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell
cried I, [and] thou heardest my voice."
Did you noticed?
Jonah was in the "belly of hell
Was he that bad that God sent him straight to Hell? Was his abandonment to give warning to the Ninevites that bad that God sent him there? I guess if you're a Baptist Born Again, yes, of course! But even if that's the case, what kind of Justice is this? What kind of God does Trinitarians worshipped for sending his faithful own servants to hell?
And furthermore, what about hell itself? Was Jonah burning in Hell? Was there a literal "fire" inside the belly of the "fish"?
If not, then why "hell"? I thought hell was hot? Is it not that's what the preachers of the Baptist cult say about hell? An "unquenchable hell fire"? Or do they have different levels of hell like the Catholics do? I wonder.
OR maybe, just maybe, this IS another mistake made by the translators of the KJV? What say you Richard?
The evidence says yes! It's yes because in verse 10, the KJV says this:
[Jon 2:2, 10 KJV] 2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, [and] thou heardest my voice. ... 10 And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry [land]
In addition, at Matthew 12 the KJV translators said this:
[Mat 12:39-40 KJV] 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly
; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
So it wasn't really "hell" that Jonah went into but that he was in the "whale's belly"
. Make sense, is it not? Yes it does.
So why the inconsistency then? Were these translators not paying attention? Maybe these KJV translator's of Jonah 2:2 were too distracted that instead of using "whale's belly" (as in the "NT"), they erroneously used "hell" in the "OT"?
Well if this so, then why again use hell in Acts 2 when describing what happened to the lord Jesus Christ when he died?
In fulfilment of Jonah's prophetic account of his being inside the "whale's belly", notice how the KJV made another blunder about Jesus Christ's death:
The KJV states:
[Act 2:27, 31 KJV] 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell
, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. ... 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell
, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Did you get that Richard?
According to the KJV, when Jesus Christ died, he went straight to "Hell".
Look at it again:
"that his soul was not left in hell
So if this is true, according to the translators of the KJV, Jesus' "soul" was in hell for three days!!! Not floating around or that he (as they say) went straight to heaven.
How about that? The KJV Onlyists sent Jesus' "soul" straight to hell!
Now, why would a loving and merciful God send Jonah and Jesus to Hell, if hell is a place of torture and punishment for the wicked?
What was Jesus doing in hell if he never committed any sin? Why be in hell if it's reserved for the wicked, for those who are condemned?
Confusing huh? Well, wait how convoluted their explanation is if they even try to clear this one out.
For us though, we already know it's confusing because the translators of the KJV made a big BLUNDER. They made a big mistake in translating "Sheol/Hades" into "hell" instead of the common GRAVE of mankind. A place in which all are going, unless God resurrects them.
So to understand properly what happened to Jonah and Jesus, let's use the NWT again. It correctly states:
“...Then Joʹnah prayed to Jehovah his God from the belly of the fish, 2 and he said: “Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave
I cried for help. You heard my voice.” (Jonah 2:1, 2)
Yes, if Jehovah God did not rescue Jonah from the "belly of the fish", it -the "belly of the fish"- could had been his final resting place - his GRAVE!
“10 In time Jehovah commanded the fish, and it vomited Joʹnah out onto the dry land.” (Jonah 2:10)
In the case of the lord Jesus Christ, he simply died and went to the common GRAVE of mankind (heart of the earth).
Notice how the NWT clearly states this:
“Then as an answer to him, some of the scribes and the Pharisees said: “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 In reply he said to them: “A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Joʹnah the prophet. 40 For just as Joʹnah was in the belly of the huge fish for three days and three nights, so the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth
for three days and three nights.” (Matthew 12:38-40)
“...because you will not leave me in the Grave
, nor will you allow your loyal one to see corruption.” (Acts 2:27)
Hence when the lord Jesus Christ was resurrected by his God and Father, he was no longer in the GRAVE.
“For you will not leave me in the Grave. You will not allow your loyal one to see the pit.” (Psalm 16:10)
““Men, brothers, it is permissible to speak with freeness of speech to you about the family head David, that he died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one of his offspring on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he forsaken in the Grave nor did his flesh see corruption. 32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.” (Acts 2:29-32)
How refreshing and faith strengthening reading the New World Translation (NWT) of the Holy Scriptures. Truly, a gift from our God. And as the days, draws nearer and nearer we will see more light flashing!
As for the KJV Onlyists they are stuck and can't get out of it.
And like I said, there's more about the errors of KJV Bible but that's for another time.
So, was you're co-worker agitated at you for pointing out the fallacy in his KJV?
Write again Richard.