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Since we have been sharing a few Bible thoughts, I thought you should know that Derrick Holland's wife is writing Baptist Experts. Here is a few things on what she posted.

"First off, I need to introduce myself.  My name is Shawnasi Holland, and I am the wife of Derrick Holland, who is a Baptist minister and also an expert in the Jehovah's Witness category of this site. I do not usually take part in the discussions on the JW forum because I was raised Catholic and do not have a JW upbringing as my husband does.  I am writing to you in reference to a question that was written to you by someone using my name."

"Derrick and I know who did this, because this person has stalked and attacked my husband for years now, and has such a hate for my husband  because of his stand in the JW section of this site.  He calls himself Brother Rando in that forum."

"My husband learned that they are the same person using two different profile names, and pointed this out to the JW forum."

"The reason that I asked you about their location, is that my husband said that when a person sends him a question in the JW forum, it often shows a state or country."

The link is http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/2015/2/shawnasi-please-allow-respond.htm

To set things straight I want both Boards to know that I AM NOT Brother Rando. It was Derrick writing me claiming I was Rando using some intense unchristian speech. I did a goggle search and found Rando on allexperts. I then spoke with him of the derogatory content. I also found Derrick Holland's profile. I commented on my Board that I think this person was the same person bombarding me because his question were from North Carolina. http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/2015/2/baptist-ministers-honest.htm

SAME DAY that posting posted this guy hounded me even more. Feb 17, 2015. I rejected most of his rantings prior to this date but now sent them to the Question Pool so the other Experts can see the evidence of me being hounded by him. I am a victim not the perpetrator here. His questions have his name and the state of North Carolina when opened. I know it wasn't you Brother Rando because your questions do not come from North Carolina. If I get kicked off because of this unstabe person, it would be sad because we are having a good and positive dialogue. I think that person is possessed and won't let up. He slanders me then attacks my character, then claims I was the one doing the slandering.

I have never wrote Derric Holland or even know him let alone his wife who also is attacking my character. And to claim that I am somehow did is a false accusation. I don't appreciate her tone of aggression and think it's unchristian.  The questions placed in the question pool can be opened by any Baptist Expert, click and you will see North Carolina. "Never get revenge. Never hold a grudge against any of your people. Instead, love your neighbor as you love yourself. I am the LORD."-Leviticus 19:18 GWT


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The list below shows questions that all experts in the Baptists category can answer. To answer a question, click on the subject.
Subject   From   Asked
GET OFF!!!!!'   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!!!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF'   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF```   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF``   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF`   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
GET OFF!   Derrick Holland   2/17/15
question pool?   Bill   2/17/15
You Research Into The Scriptures...   Baptist Preacher   2/16/15
Welcome and a few questions   Bill   2/14/15
God's Real name   Brradley P   2/03/15

Be safe,
JB

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Thanks again for the heads up.  Sorry you are going through all this turmoil at the hands of one of your own brethren.  He's been on the JW Forum fielding questions meant for Jehovah Witnesses for fifteen years.  What he is doing to you is NEW but he's been persecuting and engaging in character attacks against us for fifteen years and he's not stopping. It's called "character assassination".  

I have no part in this. I never ever heard of Shawnasi. I never wrote her, never contacted her, never wrote about her, never knew a Shawnasi.  Didn't know she even existed. I always thought it was Derrick and still do. It's not beneath Derrick to write about his wife then claim it was a Jehovah's Witness to play the sympathy card because he is full of pride.  I don't need to engage in unsavory acts to prove my point.  Just a thought, he often writes himself then claims it was a Jehovah Witness Question and gives what seems a pretty good biblical answer, at first anyways.  It's not obvious to the readers, but it is to the JW Experts.  We know we don't talk that way.  We are Christians and believe in the deity of Christ.  We believe that Jesus is what the scripture literately states, "Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (Mathew 16:16)

Derrick claims Jesus is the second person of the trinity... Okay, show us that scripture.  Eight years later we have him attacking your character for sharing biblical scripture. Why?   Man, I asked him eight years ago, could you show us the one scripture that states, "God is three separate persons"?  All he has done is persecute us.  The "personal attacks" and "character assignations" have been ongoing for fifteen years!  He can't show me one scripture about "Jesus is God" but I can show that Jesus is Lord and Savior. It's useless with him, all he can do is try to defame me.  I was reading the forum today, he never approached me about concerns about his wife or asked me if I published a rumor about his wife.  He simply accuses me and throws accusations and says I did something as if it were fact.  Derrick changes with the wind, his latest teaching  on the trinity is constantly changing.  When we were talking about the Godhead, Derrick claimed it was Jehovah.  Okay, we agree with that, so who are the "three separate persons" of the trinity?

1) First Separate Person- Jehovah
2) Second Separate Person- Jesus
3) Third Separate Person- Jehovah

That doesn't sound like a Baptist teaching!  We don't believe in the trinity because it's not a literal teaching in the Bible. When asked for a scripture, he went back to his "personal attacks".  He loses control and turns to "cursing".  Why would anyone want to be part of religion that causes others trouble?

"Return evil for evil to no one. Take into consideration what is fine from the viewpoint of all men. If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men.  Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: “‘Vengeance is mine; I will repay,’ says Jehovah.”  But “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by doing this you will heap fiery coals on his head.”  Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good." (Romans 12:17-21) http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/good-news-from-god/who-is-god/video-gods

I never stalked Derrick Holland or his wife, he stalks us.  He's the "Baptist Minister" on a Jehovah Witness Forum causing chaos and strife.  It's obvious he thinks Jehovah's Witnesses are the true Religion otherwise he wouldn't be here!  It's my opinion that he is the person using his wife's name.  Why he would make her NAME Public is on him.  I want no part of his personal issues.

I don't see why Allexperts refuses to place Derrick Holland in the Baptist Forum.  Why this announcement? "My name is Shawnasi Holland, and I am the wife of Derrick Holland, who is a Baptist minister and also an expert in the Jehovah's Witness category of this site."

Why would she PUBLICIZE her full name? It DOESN'T MAKE SENSE Unless it really is Derrick pretending to be his wife? He cries wolf so often for fifteen years, then claims to be beaten up, when he was actually the one hitting himself all along! That's the Derrick Holland I know. Where's the PROOF?? Why slander me and tell everyone I did something with NO PROOF?? Why? He's poisoning the waters.

The reason I asked you, are all Baptist Ministers Honest?  This one seems not to be fully forthcoming.  My Forum is open to you as long as I am here or even we have a Forum.  Since Holland is on a JW Forum, maybe I should join you in the Baptist Forum as a Jehovah Witness Minister?

Take Care,
Brother Rando

PS...Where did those originate from?  That's MY QUESTION. Especially on 2/17/15.  Can you do me a favor and answer one of those from Derrick yourself and send me a copy. I would be interested to learn the Location. Thank you.

Question Pool for Category Baptists


Subject From Asked
GET OFF!!!!!' Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!!!!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!!!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF' Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF``` Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF`` Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF` Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!!!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF!! Derrick Holland 2/17/15
GET OFF! Derrick Holland 2/17/15  

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Brother Rando is a student of Prophecy and one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing with the Faithful and Discreet slave. His interests are directed towards how the time of the end would come about. The earth’s population today is going through a physical, spiritual and emotional tribulation that has been prophesied concerning a time of distress as it enters into a cleansing period of removing wickedness by means of God’s Kingdom. (Daniel 12:1) Brother Rando’s discussions are of keen interest to many who await for God's Kingdom. He asserts that his discussions are just that, and not Prophecies, nor does he make the claim to be inspired. His authority is the Bible. He proclaims the year 2034 to be of very high interest to all. Like a GPS, that gives Insight to location, 2034 allows us to gauge where we are in the stream of time according to God’s Will. According to Brother Rando, the Bible carries two thoughts in it’s passages, one is fleshy and the other is spiritual. Jesus Christ warned Peter of thinking fleshy and that this type of thinking is not from God. (Matthew 16:23) In order to measure time, a method of measurement is needed. Measuring time by “the day” would mean a 24 hour period. However, measuring “the day” spiritually would mean a period of time yet to be revealed using other scripture to interpret the method needed. By looking into the Bible, we can actually determine what God meant by “the day” when looking into his Word on how his Will would come about. As we read (Genesis 2:16-17) the punishment for disobedience was death “in the day”. As time went on, the scriptures do begin to reveal the time frame of “the day”. According to Genesis 5:5, Adam lived 930 years and then he died. Satan who thinks like a man, got it wrong! (Genesis 3:4-5) Why Study the Bible

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In Brother Rando’s research of the Bible, he found scripture does interpret other scripture. The answer to how long a day was, according to God’s Will was found in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8. This is vital to gaining understanding in how we are to measure time in God’s view. Spiritually and not fleshy or physical. A day in heavens time is a thousand years to us. It’s by this method we can measure time and where we are in the stream of time of the end. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) Was Jesus indicating that he was the Temple of God, God’s Kingdom? And that the temple would in fact be destroyed or broken down? According to God’s Word, the following scripture is the basis for Salvation. “For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9) In order for John 2:19 and Romans 10:9 to come in line, did Jesus utter a prophecy about God's Kingdom since he stated, “I will raise it up”? IF the basis for salvation is that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him up. We can conclude that Jesus did not raise himself up, but it was God that raised him from the dead since he was dead and conscious of nothing at all. (Ecc 9:5) Jesus prophesied that HE would raise God's Kingdom. (Rev 5:10) Jesus was speaking prophetically of raising the temple within the third day of a thousand years. Jesus warned Peter not to think the thoughts of man. (Matthew 16:23) Based on 2 Peter 3:8 we are able to determine the time frame to when God’s Kingdom would be raised up by Jesus Christ. Jesus was put to death on Nisan 14, 33CE. The two days would actually represent two thousand years and we come up with the year 2033. Jesus stated,“in three days I will raise it up.” So the third day is upon us in 2034.

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“I fully support, acknowledge and cooperate with *The Faithful Steward and Its' Governing Body* of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I am property of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that Jesus, my brother, is appointing over his belongings. This Slave is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Earthly Organization known Worldwide as "Jehovah's Witnesses". When the Mountain-like organizations act against God's chosen people after Babylon has been destroyed, Jehovah will slaughter those who are touching the pupils of his eyes. Even though Babylon the Great is spoken as a woman and she has fallen in (Rev. 14:8), the sacred secret is that she is not a woman at all, but the World of False Religion that will be utterly destroyed by the personal hand of Jesus Christ as (King Abaddon) in the coming Great Tribulation never to be found again! (Matthew 24:14)

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Secular Historians point to the Temple in Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. But was Jesus Christ speaking in a physical sense since that Temple is non-existent today? Jehovah Witnesses assert that Jesus under inspiration of Holy Spirit was actually prophesying about his spiritual body as the only means to approach his Heavenly Father. (John 14:6) Not the Temple made by hands or his fleshy body as Christendom claims, but his spiritual body, known as the Body of Christ. (1 Cor 12:27) This would actually be the Collective Representative of God’s Kingdom in how we can approach the One True God JEHOVAH. Brother Rando is not the first to come up with this time frame. In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

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According to the discussion, 1914 represents the year that the earth would enter into a time of distress and that time limit could very well be 120 years. Which again, brings up the year 2034. The year 1914 is derived by a prophecy of the end of the Gentile times. Brother Rando insists that we should not live by a date, but to use this time to get right with God. Jesus continually pointed that the people who were on the earth when he would raise God’s Temple would be like those people in Noah’s time, taking no note. Where do the 120 years come from? If we read Genesis 6:3, most people think of this scripture in the fleshy sense of man’s lifespan. But could there be a spiritual meaning, giving those with Insight a divine warning? The Bible does say, “make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end.” (Daniel 12:4) Could it be, this world has entered into it’s Last Days in 1914? (1 Timothy 3:1-5) Yet there is another scripture that helps us measure the time. In Ecclesiastes 6:6 it reads, “Even supposing that he has lived a thousand years twice over and yet he has not seen what is good, is it not to just one place that everyone is going?” The chapter talks about vanity and that if a person actually lived two thousand years without God’s Kingdom we are all heading to the same place. Since death was the punishment, we would need God’s Kingdom to conquer death, the place we all are heading. A thousand years twice over is two thousand years. Simple math again brings us to the time of 2034, when the second thousand years has been brought to it’s finish. Could Christ Millennial reign be from 2034 to 3034? We don’t know. Jesus stated, he would raise God’s Temple in the third day, so we can expect God's Kingdom to be fully operating sometime between the years 2034 and 3034. However, Jesus Christ was risen first thing on the very morning in the third day. Most Bible readers are in agreement that Christ does rule for a thousand years.

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Armageddon is the actual cleansing of the earth from all wickedness. If in the literal sense, it would consist of angels coming down from heaven to bring death to all those rejecting the Kingdom of God. But if it is spiritual, Armageddon could very will take place without the knowledge that it is actually occurring. If this is the case, then Armageddon would commence without the knowledge that the wicked are simply dying off. There seems to be evidence in scripture to how God destroyed the forefather’s in the wilderness. They died off in the wilderness at the hand of the destroyer without knowing of such, as Paul eloquently explains in 1 Corinthians 10:1-10. If.....

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