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Folks, sorry but I can't let this pass.

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Just to state the facts and not as you see them Mr. Holland.

You said that:

"Anyway, I just had to clear up the misconception that you created, by saying that I accused you of harassing my wife...."

What? What in the world is this?

You ""...just had to clear up the misconception that [I] created, by saying that [you] accused [me] of harassing [your] wife...."?

A "misconception that [I] created"?

How is this even possible when your words bear the INCONTROVERTIBLE fact that you, Mr. Holland, did accused me of "harassing your wife". It's not as you put it, a "misconception that I created". No! The evidence bears the fact that it was you who wrongfully pointed and wag your finger (so to speak) at me!

In BOLD CAPITAL letters YOU said:


"YOU LEAVE MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR ATTACKS AND LIES....PERIOD!"

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2015/2/reply-eddie-stop-harass

So how in the world can one misconstrue something in BOLD CAPITAL letters?

"YOU LEAVE MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR ATTACKS AND LIES....PERIOD!" is quite blunt and to the point. No doubt about that!


And now you're making excuses? Giving a seemingly non-apology apology?

And then blame me for it, as a "misconception that I created"?

"Anyway, I just had to clear up the misconception that you created, by saying that I accused you of harassing my wife...."

Really Mr. Holland? I "created the misconception" of you "saying that [you] accused [me] of harassing [your] wife...."?


And to add to insult, I now "lied" about it and "twisted what you said".

"Furthermore, as I told you before…..ANY TIME you lie about me or twist what I said, or if I even have a reason to wonder if you’re involved in an attack on my family, I WILL address you about it. You can cry about “harassment” all you want to, but it isn’t harassment. You bring it on yourself with your continued lies and misconduct. If you acted like a true Christian, nobody would even be suspecting you."

So what is it gonna be then Mr. Holland? Who is lying here?

Did I attack your wife or not?

Did I lied about what you said and then twisted what you said or not?

What do the facts show?

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Let's see.

As already stated above, in BOLD CAPITAL letters, you said:

"YOU LEAVE MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR ATTACKS AND LIES....PERIOD!"

So that fact is well established. That there was no "misconception" on my part about what you said. In the court of law, this evidence is incontrovertible.

That you did clearly accused me of attacking your wife. Otherwise you would have sent the message to someone else.

Next, you claimed and accused me that "I lied about you and twisted what you said".

But what do the facts show in this case?

Here's just some of what I said from my last post (addressed to you).

"I said at the beginning that I will post your messages you sent to me but I changed my mind. Instead, let this be a request or a warning to you Mr. Holland, however you want it. But if you accuse me again in public or otherwise, I will have no choice but to post your vile and nasty messages."

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2015/2/stop-harassing.htm

In your defense you now claim that:

"So in the future, please do not try to “threaten” me with what you’re going to post, while at the same time, lying about the contents of it.  If I write you something that needs posting, then post it.  I normally write my questions Public, but you usually reject them.  So, I sent these Private, so you could reply.  Again, who rejects a Private question that won’t be seen anyway?"

Now, what in the world do you mean by "lying about the contents of it" when I refrained from even posting it?

In fact what I said is 'if you accuse me again in public or otherwise, I will have no choice but to post your vile and nasty messages.'

'I will have no choice but to post your vile and nasty messages.' Where's the lie or twisting here?

Are you saying Mr. Holland that what you said about me was NOT VILE and it wasn't NASTY? If so, then I shake my head in disbelief!

If this is not vile and not nasty to you, then wow! Whose "Christian" standard are you following?

You said:

"You people are truly lying scum bags."

Not just "lying scums" but you said "lying scum bags".

Do you really understand what you accused us of - "You people are truly lying scum bags."

I shudder just by hearing it let alone reading it.

In any case, if you don't know how vile and nasty your words are, then please pay attention:

According to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scumbags

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scum·bag  (skŭm′băg′) - mean
n.
1. Slang A person regarded as despicable.
2. Vulgar Slang A condom, especially one that has been used.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scumbags

others explain:

scumbag
/ˈskʌmˌbæɡ/
noun
1.
(slang) an offensive or despicable person
Word Origin
C20: perhaps from earlier US sense: condom, from US slang scum semen +bag

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scumbag
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So in what sense, manner or form did I twist or lied about what you said (in this case)? Enlighten me.


But I hope, may this be a lesson to you to refrain from such vile and nasty word if you claim to represent your Baptist religion.

Now, if you you want to apologize, then do so without any reservation and backtracking as you did in your last post addressed to me.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2015/2/reply-eddie-stop-harass

“. . .The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things.” (Matthew 12:35)

“. . .For wherever there are jealousy and contentiousness, there will also be disorder and every vile thing.” (James 3:16)


As to your request:

"Will you now be willing to issue a PUBLIC statement, denouncing whoever did that, as “unchristian” and “dishonest”, and that you believe it is a deplorable act that NO true follower of Jehovah God, would commit?  And point out that any conversations here in this forum, should be kept between the people directly involved, and that family members are off limits?.."

I have no problem denouncing anyone who attacks your family member in an "unchristian and dishonest" way. But i would also ask you NOT TO LET THEM TAKE PART in the conversations AND NOT to BRING them in ANY conversation. Because once they start on this road, no one can control what happens next.  

And since it's been implied that the following statements by your wife is true:

"I do not usually take part in the discussions on the JW forum because I was raised Catholic and do not have a JW upbringing as my husband does.  I am writing to you in reference to a question that was written to you by someone using my name." then she should consider to completely remove herself from any discussion in the forum. Of course what you do is your decision.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/2015/2/shawnasi-please-allow-respond.htm

I rest may case.

[A] non-apology apology is not true apology.

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