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Expert: Michael O`Flaherty (Expert=8663) - 7/26/2006
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Subject: 144,000 (12,000 from each tribe of Isreal)
Volunteer Expert: BRENDA MARTIN
Question:
Brenda, In reference to the 144,000 anointed. How many are there left that is still alive today? And when did the 144,000 anointed completed and fullfilled the number of 144,000?
Answer:
"144,000 (12,000 FROM EACH TRIBE OF ISRAEL)" Yes, but not literal Israel--, Rev. 7:4: “I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.” (But in the verses that follow, mention is made of “the tribe of Levi” and “the tribe of Joseph.” These were not included in lists of the 12 tribes of natural Israel. Interestingly, while it is said that people would be “sealed out of every tribe,” the tribes of Dan and Ephraim are not mentioned. [Compare Numbers 1:4-16.] Reference must here be made to the spiritual Israel of God, to those whom Revelation 14:1-3 shows will share with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom.) "144,000 ANOINTED. HOW MANY ARE THERE LEFT THAT IS STILL ALIVE TODAY?" 8,570 partook of the bread and wine in 2004 "WHEN DID THE 144,000 ANOINTED COMPLETED AND FULLFILLED THE NUMBER OF 144,000?" Evidently, the gathering of these was virtually complete by 1935. Then “a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb.” (Revelation 7:9-17) began to be collected in. Increasing numbers (at that time) of those who heeded the message and who showed zeal in the witness work came to profess an interest in living forever on the Paradise earth. They had no desire to go to heaven. That was not their calling. They were no part of the little flock but rather of the other sheep. (Luke 12:32; John 10:16) Their being identified in 1935 as the great crowd of other sheep was an indication that the choosing of the 144,000 was then about complete. Brenda
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Answer This one cracks me up too -- I didn't realize that they moved the date up to 1935. In 1975, JWs taught that the remainder of the 144,000 were in their 90s then. Of course the world was ending. I remember hearing of people attending services where they would pass communion around. Only the annointed were allowed to partake. The plate would go around and perhaps maybe one person would partake. If you ever meet one of these 8,570 individuals, ask them how they were annointed -- the answer may surprise you.
