Expert: Janko - 8/25/2006

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Well you can dance your way to someone else to get the answers your looking for,but as far as myself and the other seven million of us who worship the only true God,Jehovah,
you got your answer,so live with it or not,your choice,but it does not have anything to do with how and where you will gain salvation,because John 17:3 says that you can only get everlasting life from accurate knowledge from Jehovah and Jesus Christ and not by wearing a cross around your neck
which depicts Jesus being put to death.Would you wear a image of a loved one that was the most important person in your life to show everyone how much you respected him or her?No more ignorant questions such as these directed at God's organization because it is blasphemous to do so,and also an unforgiveable sin,a sin against the Holy Spirit that
directs all the operations throughout the organization.
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I am quite disappointed…I was actually surprised at how quickly my co-worker was stumped. He told me that an elder or someone with more knowledge of the Jehovah Witness faith would be able to dispute me with HARD EVIDENCE. Apparently there is no hard evidence backing up the upright stake theory, or at least I have not seen any from the JW’s I have questioned on it.

On the other hand I have a ton of very hard evidence that points to the FACTS…the fact that Jesus was crucified on a cross…I have medical, scientific, and biblical facts…what do you have?

Just so you know I don’t own or wear a cross…I don’t believe that I should have to wear one as a Christian. Some people want to wear a symbol of their faith and I respect that…I try not to “shun” people for having good, honest faith…much unlike some organizations I have become knowledge of as of late.

The image of the cross was often thought of as disgraceful by people before Christ’s death…after his death it became a symbol of liberation.

Luke 14:27
27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

1 Corinthians 1:18
Christ the Wisdom and Power of God
18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

But isn’t the power of the cross from pagan practice? Was John a pagan for believing in the power of the cross?

Galatians 5:11
11Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
The offense of the cross has been abolished…could this mean that all the evilness associated with the cross was abolished with Christ’s death and it took on a new meaning?

Galatians 6:14
14May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
What does the bible say about boasting? It’s bad. Is it bad to boast in the cross of Jesus Christ? According to the bible (also known as THE WORD OF GOD), no, boasting in the cross is okay.

Colossians 2:15
And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

The word of God has told me that Jesus Christ washed away the shame and meaning of the cross. The bible tells me that Jesus Christ gave a new meaning to the cross. He turned it into a symbol of faith in Him and in Christianity.

I have committed blasphemy by voicing out and questioning the JW faith and the WT? That statement in itself is blasphemy and God will rebuke those who claim such things.

1 John 4:1
[ Test the Spirits ] Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

The word of God tells us to question the spirits who come forth to see if they are from God or not.

Matthew 24:11
and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

Matthew 7:15
[ A Tree and Its Fruit ] "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Jeremiah 14:14
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

Jeremiah 23:16
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Leviticus 19:12
" 'Do not swear falsely by my name and so profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

Proverbs 12:17
A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.

The answers you have given prove nothing except what the WT would have us believe. The Lord made it clear if you proclaim false things in his name you will perish!

Proverbs 21:28
A false witness will perish, and whoever listens to him will be destroyed forever.

Even the brain washed will be destroyed. No man, nor organization should be fooled with the idea they are the oracle of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:32
Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams," declares the LORD. "They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least," declares the LORD.

The WT is the voice of who? I don’t claim to speak for the Lord. I speak only of what His Word tells me. I don’t need the WT to tell me what the bible says…I can read.

The WT claims to be the voice of God, yet it has prophesized the Armageddon in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1928, and 1975…all of these dates came and went with nothing happening. Also it should be noted that the prophecy was made that all the Old Testament Saints were coming back in 1920…just another in the long list of wrong prophecies. Does this make the WT a false prophet? According to the bible…without a shadow of a doubt!

No one knows WHEN God is coming back…

Matthew 24:43
But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.

The WT is bold enough to claim that Jesus came back in 1914 invisible to everyone except the WT…how bold a statement…

Matthew 24:27
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

You claim to be speaking for the organization that God himself speaks through. If this is so then why can I (a mere Christian, not a bible scholar of any manner) disprove every thing you teach?

You shall continue to dance around the truth and I shall continue to dance in the truth. I will pray that you can find the truth and come to it so that your soul is not eternally lost. I will not judge your ways or your beliefs even though you will judge me. The bible teaches me not to judge, but it also teaches me to seek truth, and it tells me if I see a false prophet I should expose that prophet.

I hope that one day you learn to take 1 John 4:1 and use it in your life.


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You just don't get it do you? You can claim to be the nicest person in the world and claim to be a Christian and still be destroyed the same way that all the people in the Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah were because they didn't worship Jehovah.You are no different than they were.You all practice pagan rituals as celebrating holidays and birthdays
and the such.You get involved in politics and fight in wars and kill your fellow man,sometimes of your own faith just because they are from a different nation.The Bible says that your sins have amassed clear up to heaven and your blood guilt from that is not forgiveable.So keep on with the way you believe because your not alone,the"many" that Jesus mentioned on the broad and spacious road to destruction is the road your on.This pleases your god of this system of things,Satan the ruler of the world,and he wants you to keep on believing the lie,and on the other hand
God allows you to go on believing the lie.This debate about a cross being two-beamed or not is irrelevant to the fact of why Jesus died on it,it means our salvation with his precious blood that was shed.