Jehovah`s Witness/ego eimi
Michael wrote at 2009-07-23 13:10:08
As I research this issue, I grow more and more troubled. Am I the only one that sees the great cloud of smoke? After reading all of the mumbo jumbo, I still have to read verse 59 next:
John 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Jesus claimed to have been with Abraham. The Jews rightfully disputed that fact. Either Jesus was simply claiming to be older than He looked or He answered, no matter how you "render it," using God's holy and eternal name and claiming to be Him. Let the reaction of the Jews tell you what Jesus communicated! Had they believed Him, they would have bowed down and worshiped. Since they didn't believe Him, they responded appropriately according to their Law. You don't get stoned for claiming to be "older than you look"!
Jesus said, "Before Abraham was Ego Eimi."
servant wrote at 2011-01-07 17:34:31
The bible teaches that Jesus is God
The scriptural answer which is always objective teaches us that yes indeed Jesus is God. All scripture is inspired and God Himself tells me that Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6 (mighty God)
We know in scripture that there is only one God.(Isaiah 43:10)
Is there a contradiction in the bible? No, God is perfect and says what He means.
No we understand that there is plurality in God. In a sense God is a team, Father,Son, and Spirit. The Watchtower would have you believe that the plural nature of God is pagan. Just the opposite true believers in His word do not form doctrine by changing His word, we accept it and form our doctrine on what He has given us to study.Even the New translation reads "Mighty God"
So the Watchtower reduced Jesus Godliness to god in John 1:1
But we know Jesus is God in Isaiah 9:6 so He must still be God in John 1:1 and John 8:58
CaribbeanBlues wrote at 2015-04-18 20:37:33
John 4:26, 6:35, 48, 51, 8:12, 24, 28, 58, 10:7, 11, 14, 11:25, 14:6, 15:1, 5, 18:5, 6, and 8. Among all of these, NWT translates it “I am” in all but one. That is, in 8:58 alone it is translated “I have been,” what some would say is “an impossible translation.” Interesting all the more to see that the Jews present, those who spoke the language and stood face-to-face with Jesus as He spoke, according to the NWT translators, did not understand as perfectly as they do, for Jews picked up stones to stone Him, the proper response, not for saying “I have been,” but rather to one calling Himself “God.” (John 10:33, Lev. 24:16)