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Ron wrote at 2009-11-14 01:00:39
derrick,nothing you put up here is the truth!!! i have many friends who are jw's so i do know a little. your whole cross and pole debate - the greek word "cross" is stauros - in old classical greek language it DOES mean an upright stake. MUCH later it did infact get morphed in which it did get a crosspiece. that is true but not in his time.  THE IMPERIAL BIBLE DICTONARY acknowledges this quoting"the greek word for cross(staurus) properly signified a stake, an upright pole or a piece of paling. EVEN  among the Romans "crux" which means cross HAD been originally a upright pole. you should read all types of wonderful information out there before telling incorrect information. also they do believe that christ manifested both sprit and fleshy form after his ressurection, your wrong on that too. heavenly hope for all christians is not supported in your versus yuo show at all. for one he was talking some of his apostles. However there are many, many versus that state the rightous will inherit the earth and will reside on it forever, plus the 144k versus also. plus god speaks about his plan for a paradise eath and een though adam & eve messed things up he still has plans for his earth which he cares about greatly. if everyone is in heaven why would there be so many versus throughout hte bible refering o paradise earth and hte meek wil inherit it, and many versus about those in the grave will be raised for judgement which goes on about the paradise earth nothing about heaven for all. there is so much reference to look at from scolars and historical books, bibles and dictonaries and the bible that all point to your accusations adn just wrpng about the jw's. its funny how they are attacked especially from angry ex jw's that spread incorrect information. i am not a jw but do know many. i also know other people from other religions also and hav ehad great talks witht them. used bibles from the jw and nib and others and they all were right on the money together, no difference in versus except maybe a thee and a thou, older terminology. so all those bibles were good. i noticed that the jw's use many scriptures to debate on an issue where as others use a couple and also have other outside references to verify there position so you cant say well its there own word there own bible saying. your whole born again comment is wrong also. they (jw's)geting baptised and accepting jesus as savior is infact the same thingjesus spoke about being born again in order to do gods will which is to live on a paradise earth. also the few 144k that will ruling in heaven with christ they to are born again(accept jesus as our savior) symbolized by water baptisim. i wish you would spread teh truth instead of lies here.

Scott wrote at 2013-09-19 23:32:27
Ron, I would strongly suggest that you actually CHECK OUT the reference from the Imperial Bible Dictionary for yourself...NOT the way it is used in Watchtower literature, but the ENTIRE quote.  I think you will see that your notion about the "stauros" coming to mean "cross" much later after Christ, is absurd.  And the Imperial Bible Dictionary makes this clear.  

How about reading the actual article, before spouting off a bunch of nonsense.

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I was raised in the religion known as Jehovah`s Witnesses for 13 years. Since becoming a born-again Christian, I have researched extensively this religion, especially their doctrines and their history. I can answer questions about their doctrines from the perspective of Biblical Christianity. To be clear: Jehovahs Witnesses is the religion of my upbringing, though I myself was never baptized into the religion, nor have I ever been considered as a Jehovahs Witness.


29 years of Biblical research into the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, and how they differ from the teachings of the Watchtower.

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