Expert: Janko - 8/31/2006

Question
Outstanding,
  Thanks for the info. So each individual receives the good news, Jesus in public speaking was relating each person as an individual who builts his house on a rock or on sand. So another example besides house is that Jesus also said the body is the temple of the holy ghost. So we both know that this house was not some structure build by hands.  
Q1- Can you please tell me why did Jesus send forth the seventy into the city which he himself was going to come, after the seventy was accepted in a house in peace and directed an order not to go transferring house to house? (luke 10)
Q-2 How would you give the good news in the temple from house to house? Acts 5:42 And every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus.

Acts 20:20
20 while I did not hold back from telling YOU any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching YOU publicly and from house to house.
[[[In this case Paul was speaking to the elder from the Ephesian congregation and Paul said he did not hold back from teaching them "PUBLICLY" and "from HOUSE TO HOUSE”. It seems to me that Paul did preach in the congregation from house to house]]]

Q-3 How can you publicly teach in the congregation from house to house?
Q-4 Acts 5:42...from house to house Acts 2:46...in private homes, does it mean the same thing? The reason why I ask is because Wescott Hort new testament is written: katah oikos for both verses.

Don't copy and paste articles from the watchtower. In your own words your expertise is all I need. How well can you process the scriptures without the organization doing the thinking for you. I have faith in the scriptures alone. No other books.


r/luis

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Followup To

Question -
Janko, on Mat 7:24, can you tell me what this house is referring to?
Is this house referring to oneself?

and something else, why do you judge other people when you are unable to answer?

It is people like you, judgemental, who gives jehovah witnesses a bad name. You consider yourself so high on a pedestal that you have forgotten your purpose. Your misunderstanding of the manisfestation of Jehovah's spirit leads you to misjudgement of others as if they were commiting an unforgiven sin. As a blinded extremist you act on others with words of destruction. As if your words of wisdom was one without blemish. You continue on throwing the first stone as one without sin. I don't judge myself nor others because Jehovah brings judgement(Mathew 7:1-2).  Are you a true minister? because you sure act more like an extremist.

r/luis


Answer -
I make my judgmental opinions on what I know from the Holy Scriptures and knowing all the while I am not the Judge or the Executioner either.I just tell it like it is no holds bar.I can dish it out and I can take it also.If you don't like the way I use my opinions,well that's too bad,find someone else that wants to go on and on asking already been answered questions as most of you do on here and never want to accept what I tell them anyway.The house on a rock parable from Jesus is referring to whether you obey him or don't.Jesus compared obedient disciples to a discreet man who builds a house upon a solid rock-mass. Those who do not obey his words he likened to a foolish man who builds his house upon the sand. After a severe storm, only the house built on the rock-mass survives. Note that in the case of the discreet man’s house, “the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in.” Jesus did not promise that the discreet man would always enjoy peace and tranquillity. Rather, that man’s discretion would prepare him to weather the storm.This of course was from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount
In a figurative sense, building one’s house on the rock-mass means molding one’s thoughts, motivations and subsequent deeds according to the whole body of “these sayings of mine,” as found in the Sermon on the Mount. Adversities that strike suddenly like a violent storm in Palestine cannot wash away such a solid foundation for godly conduct. It is during times of hardship that the doer of Jesus’ words ‘will become like’ (or prove himself to be like) the discreet builder on a rock foundation. The personality traits and qualities that he has developed in accordance with God’s Word will not “cave in” under trialsome circumstances. He will not quit his service to God.  

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He sent out seventy in one Bible verse and in another Bible it says seventy-two,but that's not the point,the point is that Jesus wanted the good news spread far and wide with as many as he could at that time and to cover as much ground as he could,also he felt that they would be better off going in groups of two's.Jesus himself said that the harvest
was great but the workers were few.This is the way we go about out preaching work in the same manner.Question number two is also about the preaching work which they did whenever
and wherever they could whether it was in a Synagogue or from house to house and even in the streets,without let up
they kept on.The same is true with us but instead of a Synagogue we have Kingdom Halls and we enter into peoples homes when invited to proclaim the good news.Yes it all means the same thing,everything in the verses of Acts you quoted.This is in my own words but this article below describes why some translations say seventy and seventy-two:
Some modern Bibles at Luke 10:1 say that Jesus sent out seventy-two disciples, but my Bible says seventy. Why is there a difference?

The difference results from the fact that ancient manuscript evidence is divided as to the number of disciples Jesus sent out.

Some ancient Greek manuscripts and versions in other languages read “seventy-two” at Luke 10:1, 17, which mentions the sending out and returning of disciples. This evidence includes the codex Vaticanus (1209) of the fourth century, the codex Bezae (Cantabrigensis) of the fifth or the sixth century, the Latin Vulgate and some Syriac versions. On this basis certain translators have departed from the reading “seventy” and used instead “seventy-two.” The New English Bible and the Jerusalem Bible are two recent examples. Even scholars Westcott and Hort chose to use this number in the Greek text that they prepared.

However, there is an abundance of weighty manuscript support for the reading “seventy.” That is the reading found in the fourth-century codex Sinaiticus, which is customarily accorded “primacy of position in the list of New Testament manuscripts.” “Seventy” is the reading also of the codex Alexandrinus, the codex Ephraemi and the Syriac Peshitta, all of the fifth century. Also, Jesus sent out “seventy” disciples according to a third-century papyrus (Chester Beatty 1).—The Text of the New Testament (1968).

Accordingly, many reputable Bible versions retain the well-supported and familiar reading “seventy.” The New World Translation reads: “After these things the Lord designated seventy others and sent them forth by twos in advance of him into every city and place to which he himself was going to come.”—Luke 10:1; compare Revised Standard Version, American Standard Version and the translations by R. Weymouth, R. Rieu, K. Wuest, W. Barclay.

Bible scholars have offered various ideas as to how an early copyist might have made the slip that resulted in this slight numerical difference. But a consideration of this technical variation of the readings at Luke 10:1 should not detract from the main import of what the manuscripts show.

The abundance of ancient manuscripts and versions agree in all fundamentals, verifying that Jesus did send out a large group of disciples. We have a distinct record of why they were sent, what they were assigned to do and how they reacted upon their return. That such a complete account should reach us after nearly two thousand years certainly does evidence God’s preservation of his Word.