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Question SCRIPTURES RELATING TO MICHAEL
DANIEL 10:13
."...Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the Kings of Persia". [NAS]
Michael is only one of several other "chief princes". He is not unique.
Jesus is never called "Chief Prince" in the Bible. It is not one of His titles. He is called, however "King of Kings" and Lord of Lords." [Rev. 19:16]
DANIEL 10:21
"...Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince." [NAS]
Michael is portrayed as "your prince". That is, the "prince" for the exiled nation of Israel, who fights for them. This battle is between angelic forces.
Jesus does have angelic forces with him when He fights [see Mat. 25:31], but He is never referred to as the "Prince" of these forces, rather He is identified as "the King" [Matt. 25:34]
DANIEL 12:1
"Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people will arise...". [NAS]
Michael is here portrayed as a "great prince" who stands guard over Israel. Possibly a guardian angel.
1. Jesus is never called a "great prince" in the Bible, nor a guardian.
JUDE 9
"But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, "THE LORD REBUKE YOU". [NAS]
1. Michael is an Arch-angel. The New American Standard Concordance
p.1636 lists the meaning of "Archangel" as " a chief angel". This agrees with Daniel 10:13.
2. Michael did not dare to rebuke Satan.
3. Michael spoke of "The Lord" ["Kurios" in Greek] rebuking Satan.
Jesus is not a "Chief Angel", nor is He a "Chief OVER the angels" as the SDA's have tried to twist the scriptures to say.
2. Whereas Michael did not have the power to rebuke Satan, Jesus rebuked Satan many times. [see Matt.17:18, Mark 9:25, etc.] Therefore Jesus is not Michael.
3. Michael referred to "the Lord" as separate from himself. "The Lord" is a New Testament reference to Jesus, and an Old Testament reference to YHWH.
REVELATION 12:7
"And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon, And the dragon and his angels waged war."
Michael is fighting at the head of his angels, which is only proper, since he is a chief angel.
Revelation 12:5,6 just previous to this scripture portrays Christ as a "male", a "son". Verse 10 following calls Him "Christ". Jesus is not called an angel in the book of Revelation.
1 THESSALONIANS 4:16
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first." [NAS]
1. The Lord Himself descends.
2. "with" shouting.
3. "with" the voice of the archangel.
4. "with" the trumpet of God.
1. The Lord Jesus Christ is identified.
2.-4. All these things are WITH Christ, "a shout", "the voice of the arch-angel", and the trumpet of God". If we say this verse is saying that Jesus is an archangel because the voice of the archangel is WITH HIM , then we must also say that Jesus is "a shout", "a voice", and "a trumpet"! Ridiculous!
angels consistently refuse worship ! If Jesus was Michael the Archangel before he became a man, then why does Dan 10:13 refer to Michael as “ONE of the foremost princes” implying that he was equal to other angels? If Christ was Michael the Archangel before the incarnation, then became Jesus, then changed back into Michael the Archangel after his death, why does Heb 13:8 say that, “Jesus Christ is the SAME yesterday and today, and forever.”? How could Christ be “the same” if he changed from being Michael, into being Jesus, then back into being Michael again?
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There is nowhere in the bible where Jesus is called Michael.
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Isaiah wrote about seeing Jehovah in Isaiah 6:1-10.
In John 12:31-42, we are told that Isaiah saw Jesus' glory and spoke of Him
In Exodus 34:14 we are to worship no one but Jehovah.
In Hebrews 1:6 the angels worship Christ.
In Isaiah 44:6 Jehovah is called the first and the last (confirmed in Revelation 1:8),
but in Revelation 22:13 Christ is the first and the last. In Matthew 1:23, Christ is called "Immanuel," which means "God with us."
When Thomas touched Jesus' wounds, after the resurrection, he exclaimed, "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). There is no basis whatsoever for saying, as some JW's say, that Thomas was referring to Christ when he said "my Lord" but was referring to God (Jehovah) when he said "my God." Instead, Thomas called Christ both his Lord and his God. And Christ did not correct him! Colossians 2:9 clearly confirms the deity of Christ when it states that in Him "all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily" (New World Translation). Stephen called Jesus "Lord" (Acts 7:59,60), and we are to confess Jesus as Lord (Rom. 10:9; I Cor. 12:3). "Lord" in these verses is Kurios, which is the Greek word for Jehovah in the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Old Testament. It is evident from this that Christ the Lord (kurios) is Jehovah God.
3Jesus Christ knows all things (John 1:48; 2:25; 6:64;14:30;21:17). He is all-powerful (Matt. 28:18; Heb. 1:3), sinless (John 8:46), eternal (Mic.5:2), and unchanging (Heb. 13:8). Since only God possesses these attributes, Christ must be God.
Jesus Christ has the power to forgive sins (Mark 2:5-7; Eph. 1:7), give eternal life (John 10:28; 17:2), judge the world (John 5:22,27), and control nature (Matt. 8:26). Since only God can do these things, Christ must be God.
Christ received worship as God.
Jesus is worshiped by the angels (Heb. 1:6) and by man (Matt. 14:33), and yet only God is to be worshiped (Ex. 34:14). Christ Himself said that worship is due to God alone (Matt. 4:10), and yet He accepted worship. If Jesus in His pre-existent state were the archangel Michael, how could He have received worship, since angels are not allowed to receive worship (Rev.19:10)? If Christ were not God, then worshiping Him would be idolatrous.
Jesus Christ is called "the mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6.
JW's have a ready answer for this verse. They explain that Christ is "the mighty god" but not "the almighty." They say that Christ is the mighty, never the almighty and that Jehovah is the almighty God, never the mighty. However, Jeremiah 32:18 shows that Jehovah is the mighty One. Therefore, since Christ is the mighty God (Isaiah 9:6) and Jehovah is the mighty God (Jer. 32:18), they are both God. They both possess full deity.
Christ is God, the Creator of all things according to Colossians 1:15-17.
JW's refer to this passage to support their teaching that Christ was created by Jehovah (for example, Let God Be True, p.35). This is based primarily on the words, "the firstborn of all creation," in verse 15. However, if this verse was teaching that Jesus Christ is the first created being made by God, the word "first-created" would have been used of Christ, not the word "firstborn." These are two different words in the Greek, with two different meanings. "First-created" is protoktistos, and "firstborn" is prototokos. Colossians 1:15 does not use the protoktistos, "first-created." Instead it uses prototokos, which means an heir, a begotten one, the first in rank. The teaching of Colossians 1:15 is that Christ is first in rank above all creation; He is the Heir of all things. He is prior to all creation and superior over it.
But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed." (Gal. 1: 8,9)
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No one can see Jehovah and live!I already explained to you there is only one Almighty God.You will find nowhere in the Bible where Jesus is called Almighty or the Most High.Whats your problem unreasonabe man?They are two separate beings now and forever.Start attending the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses and see what are missing,and ask to start a Bible study with one of the Elders there.
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When you look at all the references about Michael in the Scriptures,they all fit Jesus Christ completely.Read this about Michael:
MICHAEL
(Mi´cha·el) [Who Is Like God?].
1. The only holy angel other than Gabriel named in the Bible, and the only one called “archangel.” (Jude 9) The first occurrence of the name is in the tenth chapter of Daniel, where Michael is described as “one of the foremost princes”; he came to the aid of a lesser angel who was opposed by “the prince of the royal realm of Persia.” Michael was called “the prince of [Daniel’s] people,” “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 10:13, 20, 21; 12:1) This points to Michael as the angel who led the Israelites through the wilderness. (Ex 23:20, 21, 23; 32:34; 33:2) Lending support to this conclusion is the fact that “Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body.”—Jude 9.
Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.” It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14) If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.
There are also other correspondencies establishing that Michael is actually the Son of God. Daniel, after making the first reference to Michael (Da 10:13), recorded a prophecy reaching down to “the time of the end” (Da 11:40) and then stated: “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 12:1) Michael’s ‘standing up’ was to be associated with “a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.” (Da 12:1) In Daniel’s prophecy, ‘standing up’ frequently refers to the action of a king, either taking up his royal power or acting effectively in his capacity as king. (Da 11:2-4, 7, 16b, 20, 21) This supports the conclusion that Michael is Jesus Christ, since Jesus is Jehovah’s appointed King, commissioned to destroy all the nations at Har–Magedon.—Re 11:15; 16:14-16.
The book of Revelation (12:7, 10, 12) specifically mentions Michael in connection with the establishment of God’s Kingdom and links this event with trouble for the earth: “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ‘Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea.’” Jesus Christ is later depicted as leading the heavenly armies in war against the nations of the earth. (Re 19:11-16) This would mean a period of distress for them, which would logically be included in the “time of distress” that is associated with Michael’s standing up. (Da 12:1) Since the Son of God is to fight the nations, it is only reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil, and his angels.
In his prehuman existence Jesus was called “the Word.” (Joh 1:1) He also had the personal name Michael. By retaining the name Jesus after his resurrection (Ac 9:5), “the Word” shows that he is identical with the Son of God on earth. His resuming his heavenly name Michael and his title (or name) “The Word of God” (Re 19:13) ties him in with his prehuman existence. The very name Michael, asking as it does, “Who Is Like God?” points to the fact that Jehovah God is without like, or equal, and that Michael his archangel is his great Champion or Vindicator.
Answer What are you trying to accomplish here?I have my faith that will never be shaken by someone like you whose only out to prove to himself that he is right and not the Bible.
You honestly think that I don't know what I am talking about
as being a minister of Jehovah and a true disciple of Christ Jesus?Think again you fool.You fit in the category mentioned in the Bible where it says the"the god of this system has blinded the minds(yours included)of the unbelievers"and also it says"tSo that is why God has an operation of error go on to them(you included)that they may get to believing the lie(about the truth)What do you take me for anyhow?This site for Jehovah's Witnesses is for people that are loking for the truth and not people like yourself who only want to debate and an arguement.Please find someone else to bother with your idiotic antics.
