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QUESTION: If i have a 15inch high retaining wall, 80 feet long and I put the posts 32inches apart and 30inches in the ground will it be properly supported?  What I am using are 8'/6-6.5posts, 2high.  I was going to fill it with dirt to make it level with the fence.

ANSWER: Hello:

You would not need posts to build such a retaining wall. Stack the posts on their side and drive rebar through the posts into the ground to a depth of 18 inches. Place cable anchors (deadmen) or use posts for anchors.

If for some reason you desire posts,they do not need to be placed 2 feet into the ground for such a short structure. Eighteen inches is sufficient. Two vertical posts for every horizontal post would be sufficient,in other words,the posts can be spaced about 8 feet apart.

Mark Harshman

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QUESTION: Thanks for the answer.  You more than answered my questions.  Looking at the internet and asking for other opinions, if you ask 40 people you get 40 different answers.  Thanks again.

Always looking down the road if it will last 20-30 years how can I make it last longer.  Not that I care, I'll be gone by then.

What do you think of products like liquid rubber sealant ( (Ames' Blue Max Liquid Rubber) or something similar for the posts in the ground up to ground level?  I know you can't do the whole post so moisture can escape.  Or doing it along the posts on the inside (I even thought of pond liner) and underneath that touch the soil along with pea gravel or similar between dirt and post?

I just hate the thought of something I build giving out in my lifetime knowing I should have done it differently or better.  

Thanks for the help!!!


While the rubber may offer protection from water it does not offer protection from insects and that is a function of the preservatives used in pressure or surface treated woods and so if you go with the rubber and you are using a wood susceptible to rot,apply a preservative first.

If you are using a wood relatively unsusceptible to rot,such as oak,you may want to forego the expense of rubber or preservatives. Unless you are in an area of very low rainfall applying rubber or any impermeable material behind the wall will create problems because it will create hydrostatic pressure against the wall that the wood may not be able to withstand and will impede drainage from the soil which will negatively impact your plants.

Permeable landscape fabric is ok against the face of the wall to keep soil from leaching out and gravel can be placed in back of the fabric to aid drainage away from the face of the wall.

Mark Harshman

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