AboutMichael Kelley Expertise For a different viewpoint on Mormonism for your questions, try me. I am a staunch believer in the Book of Mormon and belong to another church (the Church of Christ)that is set up identically to the Biblical church. If there are things about traditional Mormonism that trouble you or you have questions about, just ask and you might find the answers from the Book of Mormon to be quite surprising. I have been studying the scriptures diligently for 16 years under the school of hard knocks... I may not have all of the answers but will sure go find them if I don`t. I`m strongest on Biblical and Book of Mormon doctrines, and am also somewhat familiar with Mormon history and archaeology.
Question QUESTION: how are you Michael,
i am so busy lately for my job and also prepared the truth i found to you about BOM may be created by Satan, sorry to say that, i will tell you the whole story later, but before that i want to be sure some information .
base on the BOM,it record before christ came to man between 600 BC to 75 BC, there already have so many church been established and people accepted Jesus and believe the gospel ,is that true ?
and can you tell me more evident that to support BOM like bible .
thank you and God bless you :)
ANSWER: Hi Cheong,
I will be happy to answer your questions. I will reply to each below in **, Mike
You sent: how are you Michael,
i am so busy lately for my job and also prepared the truth i found to you about BOM may be created by Satan, sorry to say that, i will tell you the whole story later, but before that i want to be sure some information .
**Mike: Be careful on what you attribute to Satan. Remember the Pharisees accused Jesus of having the devil and working under the power of Beelzebub... an accusation does not make it so.
base on the BOM,it record before christ came to man between 600 BC to 75 BC, there already have so many church been established and people accepted Jesus and believe the gospel ,is that true ?
**Mike: I have a bit of trouble understanding your statement, probably due to our language differences. The BoM covers several different peoples, the Jaredites that covers 2000 to 400 BC, the Mulakites that merged with the Nephites from 400 BC, and the Nephites and Lamanites from 600 BC to around 250 AD. The BoM does not claim or pretend to cover all peoples or all ages... only specific people who migrated to the Americas during those times I mentioned. There easily could have been other peoples who were visited by Christ that the BoM does not make mention of. The BoM covers only one tribe, not the other lost tribes. Jesus says in the Bible that He had other sheep and that He would visit them and THEY WILL HEAR HIS VOICE... not the voice of His apostles or Gentiles.
and can you tell me more evident that to support BOM like bible .
thank you and God bless you :)
**Mike: Yes, even public school histories mention of the Aztecs thinking Cortez was the bearded white God who had promised to return. The Polynesians have similar traditions and thought Captian Cook was this bearded white God. Just about EVERY Native American tribe has traditions of a Bearded White God who had healed the sick, raised the dead, and promised to return. Many have traditions that each tribe has that is similar to Biblical accounts such as the flood of Noah. I have photos of the 10 commandments written in 600 BC style Hebrew that were found in New Mexico. Antis whine about the BoM mentioning the Nephites had the grain barley while so called "experts" said the Native Americans had no barley. I was living in Phoenix, Arizona at the time they were building I-10 and had uncovered Hohokum ruins that had... you guessed it, barley... that even grew when planted. I could go on and on with evidence after evidence... won't make an iota of difference to those who have already been indoctrinated against the BoM and Mormism by those who hate the truth. Even the Bible in Isaiah 29 that speaks of a book that shall "whisper from the dust" (was buried) that a learned man could not read (professor Anthon) while an unlearned man could read (Joseph Smith) and would teach good doctrine. The Bible was never buried.
Again be careful of what you say is of Satan, we shall each be held accountable at the judgment day... you don't want to be found fighting against the word of God. The Pharisees thought they were doing God's work yet fought against it always. Just being religious does not make one right.
Mike
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QUESTION: thanks Mike,I hate myself so much when I have a lot of important thing to say sometime but i can express it in my language, sorry about that i barely speak English, i am Chinese and still learning English.I come from Macau and live in Houston Tx now.
I hope i will have enough time to tell you my background that you may get more idea why i say BOM may not from God.I have fought with Satan in so many time.
the question that confused you was base on the BOM, in between 600 and 75 BC,mean before christ was born , there already have so many churches and Christians and gospel of Jesus , is that right ?
second thing i want to know ,before BOM would you mind telling me the history of bible, why we choose these 66 books as old and new testament ? as i know in long time ago, there should be more than 66 , why we do not use it ?
God bless you :)
Answer Hi Cheong, I will reply to your message below in **, Mike
You sent: QUESTION: thanks Mike,I hate myself so much when I have a lot of important thing to say sometime but i can express it in my language, sorry about that i barely speak English, i am Chinese and still learning English.I come from Macau and live in Houston Tx now.
**Mike replies: No problem, I understand. Often I have the same problem... not because of a difference in language but because I lack the eloquence in conveying to another what I know is the perfect truth and they end up disbelieving what I tell them. Even Jesus could not convince others of the truth who had hard hearts or who had already been indoctrinated with the traditions of men.
I hope i will have enough time to tell you my background that you may get more idea why i say BOM may not from God.I have fought with Satan in so many time.
**Mike: I have fought with Satan too. Yet every time I open the BoM the truth of God shines forth. When I open the books of men such as the LDS Pearl of Great Price, or a book about Buddism or other non-Christian works... I find confusion and contradiction.
the question that confused you was base on the BOM, in between 600 and 75 BC,mean before christ was born , there already have so many churches and Christians and gospel of Jesus , is that right ?
**Mike: I think I now understand... you are asking why there were Christian based churches or people who believed in Christ before He was born of Mary? Is that right? The answer is simple... the Nephites had many glorious prophesies of the coming of Christ, and understood His mission and the cross before His coming, therefore were already worshipping Him even before He was born. They understood that the Law of Moses was only a type and shadow of Christ so while they still performed the rituals of the Law of Moses, they in their hearts worshipped Christ. Even in the Bible many of the prophets understood the coming of Christ such as Isaiah who had many prophesies of Christ. Even David, who was just a king and not technically a prophet had many psalms given to him that were direct prophesies of Christ.
second thing i want to know ,before BOM would you mind telling me the history of bible, why we choose these 66 books as old and new testament ? as i know in long time ago, there should be more than 66 , why we do not use it ?
God bless you :)
**Mike: Excellent question. The Bible is a compilation of various histories, psalms, proverbs, gospels, letters and prophecies. It was up to a committee of men to determine what was to be considered scripture and what was not to be. It is VERY possible that these men rejected many writings that were perfectly good scripture... why? Who knows, I do know the church at that time had already apostatized to quite a degree and had turned to Catholocism... and they have have thrown out many good scriptures because such scriptures opposed their corrupted beliefs. The Bible itself mentions lost books that are not included in the Bible such as:
1. Book of Wars (Num. 21:14)
2. Book of Jasher (Josh 10:13)
3. Acts of Solomon (1 Kings 11:41)
4. Book of Samuel the Seer (1 Chr. 29:29)
5. Book of Gad the Seer (1 Chr. 29:29)
6. Book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29:29)
7. Prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29)
8. Visions of Iddo the Seer (2 Chr. 9:29)
9. Book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12:15)
10. Book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34)
11. Sayings of the Seers (2 Chr. 33:19)
12. Lost epistle of Paul to the Corintians (1 Cor. 5:9)
13. lost Epistle to the Ephesians (Eph 3:3)
14. Lost Epistle to the Laodicians (Col. 4:16)
15. Prophecies of Enoch (Jude 1:14)
16. Lost Old Testament prophecies of Christ (Matt 2:23)
**Mike adds: It was for this very purpose that the BoM came forth... to fill in the gaps where the Bible is missing books or does not teach certain doctrines very clearly. Case in point is baptism where some churches sprinkle infants, others immerse adults, and others dismiss baptism altogether... yet it was so important that Jesus Himself mandated that He had to be baptized Himself in order to fulfill all righteousness. The BoM clarifies and amplifies the subjecy of baptism and other Christian doctrines that most churches stumble over. Why on earth would Satan cause a book to be written that not only reteaches Biblical Christianity AND make it much more easy to understand??? Why would Satan destroy his own kingdom? Other religious works such as the Koran either never mention Christ or dismiss Him as some sort of prophet but do not revere Him as the ONLY Begotten Son of God, the only True Saviour. The BoM diligently leads one to worship only Jesus Christ and none other.
