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Hi, I purchased an old meilink safe. The safe is about 3 ft high and is ( only a guess) 60-70 years old.  The owner was unaware of the combination but the door was open.  I took the cover off the brass cover where the wheels located,and removed the plate, there were three brass rings with numbers.  The rings have a pin in a hole with numbers. 61-34-12 Looking at the numbers, i'm guessing they are just stops and not the actual combo.  What position does the indention on the wheel go when they all line up?  Is the brass box a standard type 2 lock box that I can replace?  Thank you.

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Joe,

The brass lock body and the pin type wheels are NOT a group 2 lock.   This type of lock was made before UL began testing locks.   This lock is probably an "Eagle" lock which was made for Meilink by the Eagle Lock Company.   It might be one of a couple others as well, but I would have to see what you have.   Current lock designs will not easily retrofit into the space designed for this lock.

I'm not sure what indentation you are referring to - that's a pretty non descriptive term.

If you are referring to the square cut out on the edge of the wheel, this is called a "gate".   There should be a lever which sits on top of all the wheels.   The bar of the lever that runs across the wheels is called the "fence".   When the gates of the wheel line up under the fence, it should fall into place.  Continued turning of the dial would utilize the lever to retract the locking bolts of either the lock or the safe door.

If you would like more information or have specific questions, I'll need to see photos of the dial and lock so that I can see what you are trying to describe.

send the photos to me at:   andy@securitysafeusa.com

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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