Locksmithing/PROTECTALL SAFE

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HI ANDY, I'M A FELLOW LOCKSMITH WORKING ON A PROTECTALL FIRE SAFE. NEED TO OPEN IT AND FIND (OR SET) A COMBINATION TO IT. IT MEASURES, 21 1/2" H X 16 1/2" W X 14" D. LOOKS LIKE AN S&G DIAL WITH A HANDLE TO THE LEFT OF IT POINTING ALSO TO THE LEFT. THE BEST INFORMATION THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND ON IT WAS THE DRILL POINTS, BUT WHEN I WENT TO DRILL THOUGH IT, I CAME TO SOMETHING HARD, POSSIBLY HARD PLATE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, THERE ISN'T SUPPOSE TO BE ANY IN THAT SAFE.
IF YOU CAN GIVE ME ANY OTHER IDEAS OF HOW TO GET INTO IT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU,
         MARK

p.s.
There is a #s-95340 right on top of the dial, but the age prohibits finding any info.

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Mark,

Sorry but if you've read my previous postings, you would know that I do not give out any opening information other than possible dialing sequences for security and liability reasons.   This site is a general purpose forum with access to anyone and everyone.  There are secure sites like Clearstar which would be more appropriate for you to ask and receive questions and answers.

You have to understand that I have no way of telling who you are and/or your authorization to even work on the safe.

I would also recommend if you aren't a member of SAVTA or the National Safeman's Organization, that you join either one or both of these associations.   This would also give you a great source of information for your projects.

NOTE:   Membership in any of the above organizations WILL require proof that you are in the locksmithing or Safe Trade.

Sorry, that I can't be of more help, but I'm sure that you understand why.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

Experience

44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

Organizations
SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

Publications
The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes AllExperts.com

Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

Awards and Honors
2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

Past/Present Clients
US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service Area is Northern California (Fresno to Oregon and Western Nevada)

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