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I have an old but beautiful National mortise lock set (4 separate pieces) on my entry door. There is the dead bolt turn (from inside), the lock cylinder (on the outside), the round door handle (on the inside) and a large ornate handle with thumb lever (on the outside) with no plate joining the pieces. I can't find any instructions for removing this to have it serviced and to paint the door. I can get the dead bolt turn off and the large handle with thumb lever off but everything else seems hung up. I removed all of the screws except one of the set screws. Any ideas? I'd guess this to be 40-50 years old. Thank you

Hello Pooniel,

The next thing to do is to remove the faceplate from the edge of the door.  Behind that is a set screw.  The set screw holds the outside cylinder in place.  Loosen but do not remove the set screw as you unscrew the outside cylinder.  You can insert your key half way and turn the key if that helps.

Once the cylinder is removed it should allow the plate around it to come off.

To help further I really need photos.



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