Locksmithing/value of mosler safe


I would like to know the value of mosler safe f1-d seral#1y92363 class c cat # cf-4 fire insulated 4 drawer combo safe manufacter national associate

Hi Danny,

Sorry but you haven't given me any useful information to go from.   The "Safe Manufacturers National Association" (SMNA) label was a testing agency, and has nothing to do with Mosler or the container.   The information that it DOES offer, however is conflicting.

1.  Regardless of the container having a combination LOCK, a Four drawer insulated file IS NOT a safe, it is a filing cabinet.
2.  Filing cabinets would have had a Specification "F2-ND" and NOT an "F1-D".

Filing cabinets are considered office equipment and therefore have no collectible value.   Also as SMNA quit testing and labeling safes in the early 1960's your container would be over 50 years old.    Containers over 50 years old do not meet ANY current standards for fire or burglary resistance, and infact UL only lists them for around 20 years.   
This is an obsolete container, and parts are also no longer available.

So without even seeing the container, I can give you the following values
1.  Fire Resistance:     $0     Does not meet any current standards
2.  Burglary Resistance: $0     This is NOT a burglary resistive container.
3.  Resale value:        $0     This container has no commercial or retail value.    It should NOT be used for overnight storage of cash, jewelry or ANY valuable documents.
4.  Antique/collectible: $0     Neither antique or collectible

While the container has no values under any of the categories above, doesn't mean that it has no value.   Older insulated cabinets can still be used for storage of NON-valuable, easy to replace documents or items which need protection from fire or heat.   Note:   This will not protect computer discs or other similar "film" type storage medias as they melt at a temperature lower than the container can provide protection from.

If you are contemplating purchasing the cabinet, I would recommend against it for the above reasons.   If you are attempting to sell it - offer it for a price that you would like to receive, expecting the prospective buyer to offer a much lower counter offer.   Somewhere between these two values would be a price that both would be comfortable with.

Hope this helps,


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