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Andy,

Greetings from Finland! I found this site by chance as I've been trying to find out where my great-grandmother's "piggy safe" originates from. My mother recalls her grandmother told her that the safe is from the US and I found a text on the key indicating Yale & Towne Mfg Co. Stamford, Conn. U.S.A. As I did some research it turned out that Yale & Towne is the manufacturer of the lock and key whereas the safe itself might have been manufactured by W.F.Burns Co in Chicago: http://www.thewsburns.com/

Also, similar items seem to be auctioned by Moore's:

http://www.moorecoins.com/PUT-YOUR-DIMES-AND-DOLLARS-HERE-THUS-GROW-RICHER-YEAR-

http://www.moorecoins.com/THE-QUEBEC-BANK-A-rectangular-steel-satchel-bank-with-

There is no mention of manufacturer on the bank nor any serial number or anything else that would help to pinpoint the manufacturer. I'm wondering if you could confirm whether it's W.F.Burns Co in Chicago or e.g. Coburns Co in New York. Also, It would be great if the time of manufacture could be specified or narrowed down to a certain period as I don't have any idea of it at the current.

I'm also wondering how the item has ended up with my great-grandmother. She never visited USA and didn't have any relatives who would have moved to or visited USA. According to my Mom, her grandmother did get the safe from USA, not e.g. second hand from Finland. Well, I suppose it's impossible to tell for sure but if you are aware of any reasons why similar items would have landed in Europe, I'd be very interested in hearing them.

Thank you so much in advance for any information you can provide regarding this item!

Best regards,
Juhana

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Juhana,

Sorry but I can't confirm any information about this item.   I only deal with safes and vaults, not coin banks or collectibles.   You will need to check with other collectors of similar items, or associations that collect these items.

One place that I would start with would be:
http://www.theantiquesafecollector.com/antiquesafebanksci.html

Not only is Guy Zani Jr. one of the largest collectors of antique safes, he has a unique antique coin bank collection.    If he can't answer your questions concerning the bank directly, he may be able to point you in the right direction.

You may also want to check out the following web site.   While this deals more with "mechanical" antique coin banks, they might also be able to point you in the right direction.
http://www.mechanicalbanks.org/

Again, sorry I can't help further, but this is NOT my area of expertise.

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service Area is Northern California (Fresno to Oregon and Western Nevada)

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