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I have an old floor Star safe (American Security Products Co.)
I've never used it; it is at a rental house and my tenant was messing with it and the combination is gone. It was never put in the ground; it was in it's original box which is also gone.
Here is the only information I have: Serial # 143342, It has a place for a model # but there isn't anything there.  I would like to find out if there is a way of opening it since I plan to backcharge my tenant for it.


Sorry but AMSEC (current owner of STAR) only has records from about 370940 on.   This basically leaves you with two options, you can test all of the 1,000,000 possible combinations, or you can take it to a local safe company to have them open it for you.

The good news is that it isn't installed, so that will save you some $$$'s.   If it's too heavy for you to load in your car, get some help.   Taking it to the safe shop will save you up to $100.

The safe company can also have their safe tech come to your location to do the work, however it will be more expensive.

NOTE:   I NEVER recommend using locksmiths for safe work.   They generally don't have the training, knowledge or tools and can cause excessive damage or charge exhorbant fees.

If you don't have a local safe company, let me know where you are located (zipcode) and I'll see who I know in your area.   I know a lot of good safe techs in California.  


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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 40 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of two Tilton & McFarland safes from the 1860's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


40 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2014 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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