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I have a remington rand safe, fire rating ME-2 (??), serial # 174360, 30"WX29"DX52"Tall. Any idea how old it is? Can the combination be changed? Any idea the value ($$)? Thanks

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Ray,

Remington-Rand made safes from 1926 until they were acquired by the Sperry Corporation in 1955 and all safe manufacturing ceased.   The ME series (Medium Exposure) ratings were made during the late 1940's through the early 1950's.

As far as value, you have several problems with the container.   First - containers over 50 years old do not meet any current standards for fire resistant.  Second - this manufacturer was known to use Asbestos as an insulation material.   As this is considered a hazardous material (HAZMAT), most states have strict rules regarding transportation, transfer (selling it), or disposal.   Check with your states HAZMAT officials to determine what your requirements are.    Fines can be extremely expensive if you ignore the regulations.

These containers are neither collectible or antique.   They were considered "OFFICE Equipment".   They have very little value real value.    If you were to contact me about your container, I would probably charge you to haul it away for disposal.

Sorry, I wish the news was better, but it is what it is.

This by no means indicates that you can't use the container.   While it does not meet any standards for fire resistance, and it is NOT a burglary resistive container.    It may still provide fire resistance, and I would recommend its use for GENERAL purpose documents ONLY.

This container should not be used for overnight storage of cash, jewelry or any valuable documents.

Hope this answers some of your questions.

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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