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Locksmithing/Victor safe about 40year old


I have one and can open it. I want to change the combination and have the key to do so. It currently opens with the 4L 3R 2L 1R to stop combination. How do I change the current combination and will the 4321 LR sequence remain. If the 4321 sequence remains can I change that also?

Thank you for your time.

Hi Pete,

First off, I never recommend combination changing as a DIY project for the same reason that I never recommend using locksmiths for safe work.   Lack of training, knowledge and/or tools can easily result in a really expensive lockout.

Your safe has to be well over 40 years old, as they have NOT been made since 1955 or 56.    So at a  MINIMUM it would be almost 60 years old or older.

Secondly, before I would provide you with any instructions, I have a hold harmless that I need signed.   I will need you to send an email directly to me requesting this form.    Unfortunately we require this for obvious liability issues.

Lastly, I will need to know what lock that is actually installed on the container, so that I can provide you with the appropriate instructions.    Litterally I have hundreds of sets of instructions depending on the lock and/or manufacturer.

If you don't know what model lock you have, then I will need photos of the dial, and the back of the lock.    You may need to remove the back panel on the door to reveal this area.

Once I know what you have, and have the signed form, I can send you instructions for your lock.

Send your request directly to me at:

Your other option would be to have a trained safe technician from a local safe company, check it out and/or reset the combo for you.    If you don't have a local safe company, let me know where you and/or the safe are located (zipcode), and I'll see who I know in your area.  


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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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