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I have an in-floor safe made by Atlas Safe Co., Inc. that was bought about 30 years ago and installed in the floor with concrete.  The problem is that the door to the safe has a combination (it says "Atlas" on the circular knob where you turn for the combination and also it has a key.  The problem is that I lost the combination but I still have the key.  I also have the serial number which is 10418. I have called quite a few locksmiths but nobody seem to be able to help me. I would appreciate any ideas or any contacts that you might have here in Miami that you think would be able to help me. (The safe has a circular opening with a metal lid that covers the whole opening so that it is level with the floor but if I remember correctly it is not circular inside)

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Hi Marylou,

The majority of the safes I've seen with an "Atlas Safe Company" logo, were actually made by the Major Safe Company (now owned by American Security Products - AMSEC).    Unfortunately as Atlas is no longer in business, and as AMSEC does NOT have records for Major safes prior to serial number 370940, you are pretty much out of luck in tracking down possible combinations.

First word of warning - NEVER, EVER, EVER use a locksmith for safe work.   They generally don't have the training, knowledge or tools to work on safes and can charge excessive prices while they go about the business of ruining your safe.    I have to applaud everyone of the ones that you talked to, for having the integrity to indicate that this was NOT their area of expertise.

I do have a good contact in Miami that I would recommend your contacting.   If they can't help you, they will have some good recommendations in your area.   Here is their info:

Worldwide Safe & Vault Company
3660 NW 115th Ave,
Doral, FL 33178
Phone:(305) 477-9266
800-932-2278
hours are 8-6pm,  M-F (closed Sat, Sun & Holidays)

Sorry you aren't closer to California, but I hope this helps you out.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

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Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service Area is Northern California (Fresno to Oregon and Western Nevada)

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