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Iam about buy a diebold cashguard locked serial # 05-27595F-08156-03 safe. will the factory give out orig. combo to a bonded safe company. If not what is the least costly way to open it and make usefull again.I will be very happy any advice you may have.

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Hi Lyle,

You may want to hold off on buying this safe as it would have a "NEGATIVE" value, currently.

While you can check with the factory, to my knowledge all of their safes for the past 30 years or so, left the factory set on a single number - "50".    The combination would have been set AFTER it was installed at the original purchaser's location.

While the factory may have something different, they won't even talk to you or discuss a combination with you, as you were not the original purchaser.

You would either need to have a Diebold Rep, check the safe out and look for the combination for you, or you will need to have it opened by a safe technician from a local safe company.

If you are looking for "least costly", your options are fairly limited.    You can test all of the 1,000,000 possible combinations to find the one that opens the lock.    At 500 each day, this will only take you about 5.5 years.


If the safe is a Diebold Cashguard it could be either a TL-15 or a TL-30 safe.    These are higher security ratings than standard safes.    Depending on where you are at and who opens the safe for you, costs could range from about $700 to $1000 to open and repair the TL-15, and from $1000 to $1500 to open and repair the TL-30 safe - plus any necessary parts.

Buying a locked up safe with no combination is not necessarily a smart idea.    Generally if someone called us - we would be charging them between $400 to $600 to haul it away for disposal.     While we may open, repair and sell it, we are assuming all of the repair costs to return it to a working condition - BUT we would NOT pay someone for a locked up safe.

Hope this helps,

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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