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Hi Andy,

I have been reading some of the questions and your responses. While you might have answered these already I have not come across an exact answer.

1st I have a safe from Diebold Safe and Lock Company, given to me by my mother. While no originally purchased by a family member it has been in the house for many years.

At some point some took the lock apart and removed the locking bolt. Really don't know why since we have the combination.

Am starting to consider a restore of the safe and if I am not able to get the parts I need does not seem to be a good investment.

Would you know anyone willing to sell the missing pieces?
Would you be able to provide me a list of the missing pieces?
Would you know the specifications for the missing parts so I could have a local machine shop make?
And last would you be able to tell me a bit about the history of the make model and where this might have originated?

I have additional images bit was limited to uploading 2

Thanks for your time and assistance.

I have attached some photos of the safe

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Hi George,

I'll have to look through my old parts to see if I have anything, however we do not "part out" locks, which means that we would only sell it as a complete unit.

I'll see what I have for you, but generally these locks can run around $500-$600 and the dials can run around $150, so I would really recommend that you search your house for the missing items.

As for technical drawings of the pieces - they don't exist.   Manufacturers never published any info like this and any patent drawings do not contain measurements.

I can probably come up with a drawing for the lock bolt & lever assembly however I charge for my time for something like this.    It would be much cheaper than buying the lock and dial, but you would still need to have the item made.

I'm not sure WHAT "history" you are looking for.   This was simply one of Diebold's standard fire resistive safes, and as far as where it may have originated - its right on the front of the safe.   The Diebold Safe & Lock Company manufactured safes in Canton, Oh.   If you are looking for a history of THIS safe - sorry, but if you don't have the history no one else will either.   There simply are no records for this type of info.    You will need to be a bit more specific with your request for info.

If you would like a drawing of the lock bolt & lever assembly, please send a request directly to me at:   Andy@securitysafeusa.com    Also, I'll need more photos of the lock and bolt work arrangement that you currently have.

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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

Organizations
SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

Publications
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Education/Credentials
Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

Awards and Honors
2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service Area is Northern California (Fresno to Oregon and Western Nevada)

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