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I purchased a LeFebure safe door that was removed from a business.  I plan to use it for safe room entrance in my basement.  The guy I bought it from does not have the combination.  The door is removed and on a pallet that was delivered to me.  I have the serial number for this door.  Can the combination be provided from the company with proof of ownership and or pictures?

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Hi Gregg,

I would imagine that you are referring to a "vault" door and not a safe door.    Vault doors are "walk in", safe doors are "reach in".

In answer to the basic premise of your question - NO!    #1 - as LeFebure has been out of business since they were acquired by Mosler around 1995 and as Mosler went bankrupt in 2001, it's going to be rather difficult to contact the manufacturer unless you have developed some sort of time travel.    #2 - Vault doors generally come from the manufacturer set on a neutral number.   When it is installed originally the first combination would be set for that "business".    Generally businesses have their combinations changed on a regular basis for security reasons and/or when an employee who has the combination leaves.     In many cases this could be up to several times each year.

Bottom line - Yes the combination can be recovered and/or reset for you.

You didn't indicate whether you were going to have a trained safe company install the door, or whether you were going to attempt this yourself (not recommended), but as soon as the door is upright a safe technician from a local safe company can recover or reset the lock combinations for you.    

Check your local yellow pages under "safes & vaults" for local safe companies.    If you don't have one, let me know where you are located (zip code) and I'll see who I might know and/or recommend in your area.

Hope this helps,

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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.

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44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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