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Star Safe Model E8H
Star Safe Model E8H  

We have an old Star Safe model E3H.  The issue we have is that we don't know if its a 3 or 4 digit(s) combination - we found the old numbers which have 3 or 4 numbers listed; just wanted to see if we can narrow down the time it takes to open.  

On the red dial on the front is the writing "Compton 3" does this suggest 3 cylinders?

Any help would be appreciated


ANSWER: Hi Blair,

I'm not sure what the "3" referenced on the dial, but there was never a four wheel lock produced for these safes.
If I remember correctly the model number stands for:
E:     E rated safe / UL-TL15 equivalent.
8:     8" diameter round door
H:     Hinged door

The dialing sequence for the lock on this safe is:

4 times left to the first number,
3 times right to the second number,
2 times left to the third number,
1 time right - stopping at "0" - push the dial in and continue right until it stops - about 75ish!

Note:   If the combination is correct, the dial should stay pushed in, if the combination isn't correct the dial will spring back out at any point.

When the dial comes to a stop, at about 75, the bolt work has been retracted and the door can be pulled open.

concerning the numbers that you may have found.   People generally write combinations down the way that THEY understand them to work, and NOT necessarily the way the lock actually works.   If the numbers were coded in any fashion they may also not work, so if they don't work the first time, you may need to do a little detective work to try to determine what the owner was thinking.

The lock on this safe is/was Star's unique, proprietary, manipulation resistive design.   This means that if the combination doesn't work, you basically have two options for opening the safe

1.   You can test dial ALL of the 1,000,000 possible combinations until you find the correct one that opens the safe, or
2.   You can have it opened by a trained safe technician.   

Note:   As part for these locks are not readily available, and the current kits may not work without replacing ALL of the lock components, having a safe technician (not a locksmith) open the safe should NOT result in any damage that is unrepairable.    While it may be necessary to drill a small hole in the safe to open it, if done right the lock and safe door should NOT be ruined.

If you elect to have a safe technician open it, contact a local SAFE company, again, not a locksmith company.   If you don't have one in your area, let me know where you are located (zip code) and I'll see who I might know and/or recommend in your area.

Hope this helps,

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Thank you so much for your help.  We'll give it a go!  Just in case, can you recommend a safe technician in the 92625 area?

Thanks again and for getting back to me during the holidays!

Best regards


Hi Blair,

I've got a friend who has a boat/marine maintenance shop in Newport Beach - but I don't think that will help you much.

I do have two really good contacts that both cover the entire LA region, you can contact one or both of them to discuss having the safe opened.

Professional Safecracking
760-805-2958          Todd Kern
Temecula, CA

Stratton Safes
909-963-0801          Neil Stratton
240 Maple Ave., Ste G
Beaumont, CA   92223

Todd is strictly mobile, so he is used to traveling and possibly has more available time.   Neil actually has a brick & Mortar company, so he may have less available time, however both of these guys are top notch.

There are a number of other small companies that may be closer than either of these two, but none that I know personally or can vouch for their expertise.

Hope this helps,


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