hi, can you help me I forgot the combination to my lord safe it is about 20 years old

Hi Barry,

All of the safes from "Lord", left the factory set on a neutral number.    The actual combination wasn't set until the safe was sold to the first customer.     Also as Lord Safe Company went out of business, there wouldn't be any records available anyway.

This basically leaves you with two choices:
1.   You can test dial all of the (up to) 100,000,000 possible combinations for your lock, and/or
2.   have a safe technician from a local safe company open the safe and recover the combo.

Unfortunately, Lord used a couple different combo locks.   On the smaller units they used a standard 3 wheel lock with up to 1,000,000 possible combinations.    On the larger safes they used an S&G 4 wheel vault lock, with up to 100,000,000 possible combinations.    Testing up to 500 combinations each and every day would only take you about 5.5 years (530 years for the 4 wheel lock).

Your other options would be to contact a local safe company to have their trained safe technician or safe engineer open the safe for you.    I'm not sure who is available in your area, but in Australia I usually recommend using Ratner Safes.

Ratner Safes pty ltd
12 Longview Court Thomastown
Victoria 3074 Australia
Telephone : 03 9465 7833
Fascimile : 03 9464 0828
E-Mail : sales@ratnersafes.com.au

hope this helps out.  


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Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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